Doug Elgin puzzled by NCAA's lack of respect for MVC

[Bravesfan]

Until the Valley puts some better teams together, it doesn't matter what tv station or dates the Valley tournament is on.

BINGO! The early Valley tournament didn't hurt us in 2005, 2006 or 2007. The Valley needs to schedule up, by Elgin's requirements if necessary, and we need better teams that win games against solid BCS opponents. Then and only then might we get back to becoming a consistent 2 to 3 bid conference.

[Bravesfan]

These conf. tournaments and CBS contracts bring in a lot of money, we just needed for UNI to tank the game against Wichita like some of the other conferences appeared to do in order to get 1 more team guaranteed into the tour; and a no.9 seed is completely insane for UNI .

Exactly. It doesn't even matter now if UNI won that game. They would end up with a 10 or 11 seed with a loss, which actually would be better for them in that they would end up with an easier second round opponent.

The Valley needs to go back to the days of their top seeds "tanking" games!

[MDCowboy]

If not "tanking" games, it sure would help to have the officials not give every advantage to the higher seeds. I recall Indiana St. getting a LOT of help from refs against #1 seed Creighton a few years back. In fact, the MVC champion used to routinely lose in the semifinals, thereby guaranteeing 2 bids.

[Grassman]

BINGO! The early Valley tournament didn't hurt us in 2005, 2006 or 2007. The Valley needs to schedule up, by Elgin's requirements if necessary, and we need better teams that win games against solid BCS opponents. Then and only then might we get back to becoming a consistent 2 to 3 bid conference.

You are correct sir. It does not matter when you have your championship games its the quality of THE LEAGUE and THE TEAMS, that gets you more teams in the dance!
I believe most of the pairings, 98% are already locked, before Selection Sunday games!
Remember when in 2006, everybody was saying how the Mo Valley had broken "the code."
Well although not quite as dramatic as The Da Vinci Code: Here it is---
The Valley needs to schedule up and win some of those games, then and only then will we not be a one bid league!
We need our code back

[BUSongwriter]

This thread seems to have morphed into a discussion about the number of bids the MVC is getting (or not getting). I think the original comment by Elgin (and DC) was about UNI's ridiculous seed. I kept waiting for someone on ESPN or CBS to raise the question of how a team that won a Top Ten conference by three games, won its bracketbuster game, won its conference tournament, and is a Top 25 (or 26) team got a 9 seed. But nobody questioned it -- and that, to me, is as bad a diss as the seed itself.

I look forward to tuning in to the Panthers' game against UNLV and hearing that discussion by the commentators. And it would be great if UNI keeps the discussion going with a win. After all, tournament wins is a way for the conference to get respect (though the bigs forgot quickly after 2006).

Go MVC teams in all post-season tournaments!

[tornado]

This whole discussion would be moot if the MVC teams that are playing in the post-season would just out and kick some butt..

I think Bradley has done its fair share winning plenty of games over the past 4 years in the NCAA, NIT, CBI, and CIT...

But honestly, virtually no other MVC team has done squat since 2007 in the post-season...

one-and-done just isn't going to get it done...and losing in the NCAA or NIT to another mid-major or losing by 30 to a BCS school makes the MVC look weak...

we have SIX MVC teams in four different post-season tournaments...
how about all those guys just kicking some butt and winning a few, it'll go a long way on the Valley's resume.......