MVCT games start tonight

[Da Coach]

The Saluki's hope they can pull off what Bradley is the only team to accomplish- making it out of the play-in round and winning at least 2 games.
Bradley in 1998 won a play-in game, and advanced to the semifinals. They remain the only team in the history of the MVC to do so.
See paragraph 5-

http://www.thesouthern.com/sports/article_69d7a0f8-2754-11df-a2cb-001cc4c002e0.html

Games tonight-
SIU vs. Drake at 6:05 pm CST
Evansville vs. Missouri St. at 8:35 pm CST

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/scoreboard?d=2010-03-04&c=mvc

There is no TV available for tonight's games.
If anyone is aware of where a video stream is available, let us know.

[Bravesfan]

The Saluki's hope they can pull off what Bradley is the only team to accomplish- making it out of the play-in round and winning at least 2 games.
Bradley in 1998 won a play-in game, and advanced to the semifinals. They remain the only team in the history of the MVC to do so.
See paragraph 5-

http://www.thesouthern.com/sports/article_69d7a0f8-2754-11df-a2cb-001cc4c002e0.html

Games tonight-
SIU vs. Drake at 6:05 pm CST
Evansville vs. Missouri St. at 8:35 pm CST

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/scoreboard?d=2010-03-04&c=mvc

There is no TV available for tonight's games.
If anyone is aware of where a video stream is available, let us know.

I'm surprised that a play-in team has not won the Valley tournament yet. I have seen I want to say Arkansas in the SEC several years ago winning four games to take the auto bid there, and someone from the Big Ten over the past decade doing the same thing.

With the parity in the middle of the Valley this year, I would not put it past a Missouri St. or even SIU to pull this off. Not likely though as I had picked in the Andy Katz thread the CU/BU winner or ISU to win the whole thing.

[PTownHawkeye]

This may be common knowledge to some, but I don't know the answer: who is the lowest seed to win Arch Madness and what year did this occur??

[Da Coach]

This may be common knowledge to some, but I don't know the answer: who is the lowest seed to win Arch Madness and what year did this occur??

The lowest seeds to win the MVC tournament were;
Indiana State, seeded #5 in 2001
Creighton, seeded #4 in 2000
Six #3 seeds have won- CU (2005), Tulsa (1996), SIU (1995), SIU (1994), MSU (1992), and WSU (1985).
13 times it's been won by the #2 seed
12 times it's been won by the #1 seed



Lots of good info about the tournament and past history here-

http://www.mvc.org/mbb/tournament.pdf

[Da Coach]

Here are all the championship teams and their seeds-

Year..Team..Seed
1977 SIU #1
1978 CU #1
1979 INSU #1
1980 BU #1
1981 CU #2
1982 TU #2
1983 ILSU #1
1984 TU #2
1985 WSU #3
1986 TU #2
1987 WSU #2
1988 BU #1
1989 CU #1
1990 ILSU #2
1991 CU #1
1992 MSU #3
1993 SIU #2
1994 SIU #3
1995 SIU #3
1996 TU #3
1997 ILSU #1
1998 ILSU #1
1999 CU #2
2000 CU #4
2001 INSU #5
2002 CU #2
2003 CU #2
2004 UNI #2
2005 CU #3
2006 SIU #2
2007 CU #2
2008 DU #1
2009 UNI #1

(TU is Tulsa- they left the MVC after 1996)

[Da Coach]

Tournament Titles, By Seed
1 -- 12 (last : UNI in 2009)
5 in St. Louis
2 -- 13 (last: Creighton in 2007)
7 in St. Louis
3 -- 6 (last: Creighton in 2005)
5 in St. Louis
4 -- 1 (Creighton in 2000)
5 -- 1 (Indiana State in 2001)
Tournament Titles, By Team
10 -- Creighton
5 -- Southern Illinois
4 -- Illinois State, Tulsa
2 -- Bradley, INS, UNI, Wichita St.
1 -- Drake, Missouri State
Title Town
Titles by current Valley members (most recent in parentheses):
Reg.-Season* Tourney
Bradley 6 (1996) 2 (198
Creighton 14 (2009) 10 (2007)
Drake 7 (200 1 (200
Evansville 1 (1999) none
Illinois State 5 (199 4 (199
Indiana State 2 (2000) 2 (2001)
MSU none 1 (1992)
UNI 1 (2009) 2 (2009)
S. Illinois 8 (2007) 5 (2006)
Wichita State 6 (2006) 2 (1987)
*includes outright and shared titles
Tourney Records, By Seed
.....Pre-STL St. Louis Total
No. 1 28-7 36-14 64-21
No. 2 23-8 36-12 59-20
No. 3 20-13 30-14 50-27
No. 4 15-14 13-18 28-32
No. 5 6-14 15-18 21-32
No. 6 2-14 2-19 4-33
No. 7 2-14 8-19 10-33
No. 8 0-12 4-19 4-31
No. 9 1-1 10-14 11-15
No. 10 0-0 6-13 6-13
.........97g 160g 257g

[Da Coach]

More info-

YEAR-BY-YEAR CHAMPIONS
Year Champion Runner-up Score Site
1977 Southern Illinois W. Texas State 82-69 Wichita, Kan.
1978 Creighton Indiana State 54-52 Omaha, Neb.
1979 Indiana State N. Mexico State 69-59 Terre Haute
1980 Bradley W. Texas State 62-59 Peoria, Ill.
1981 Creighton Wichita State 70-64 Omaha, Neb.
1982 Tulsa Illinois State 90-77 Tulsa, Okla.
1983 Illinois State Tulsa 84-64 Normal, Ill.
1984 Tulsa Creighton 70-68 (ot) Tulsa, Okla. 1985 Wichita State Tulsa 84-82 Tulsa, Okla.
1986 Tulsa Bradley 74-58 Tulsa, Okla. 1987 Wichita State Tulsa 79-74 (ot) Tulsa, Okla.
1988 Bradley Illinois State 83-59 Peoria, Ill.
1989 Creighton Southern Illinois 79-77 Wichita, Kan.
1990 Illinois State Southern Illinois 81-78 Normal, Ill.
1991 Creighton Missouri State 68-52 St. Louis, Mo.
1992 Missouri State Tulsa 71-68 St. Louis, Mo.
1993 Southern Illinois Illinois State 70-59 St. Louis, Mo.
1994 Southern Illinois UNI 77-74 St. Louis, Mo.
1995 Southern Illinois Tulsa 77-62 St. Louis, Mo.
1996 Tulsa Bradley 60-46 St. Louis, Mo.
1997 Illinois State Missouri State 75-72 St. Louis, Mo.
1998 Illinois State Missouri State 84-74 St. Louis, Mo.
1999 Creighton Evansville 70-61 St. Louis, Mo.
2000 Creighton Missouri State 57-45 St. Louis, Mo.
2001 Indiana State Bradley 69-63 St. Louis, Mo.
2002 Creighton Southern Illinois 84-76 St. Louis, Mo.
2003 Creighton Southern Illinois 80-56 St. Louis, Mo.
2004 UNI Missouri State 79-74 (2ot) St. Louis, Mo.
2005 Creighton Missouri State 75-57 St. Louis, Mo.
2006 Southern Illinois Bradley 59-46 St. Louis, Mo.
2007 Creighton Southern Illinois 67-61 St. Louis, Mo.
2008 Drake Illinois State 79-49 St. Louis, Mo.
2009 UNI Illinois State 60-57 (ot) St. Louis, Mo.
Year-By-Year Tourney Records, By Seed
.......1... 2... 3... 4....5... 6... 7... 8... 9... 10
??™77 1-0 0-1 1-1 3-1 1-1 0-1 0-1
??™78 1-0 0-1 3-1 2-1 1-1 0-1 0-1 0-1 1-1
??™79 3-0 2-1 1-1 0-1 1-1 0-1 0-1 0-1
??™80 3-0 1-1 2-1 1-1 0-1 0-1 0-1 0-1
??™81 2-1 3-0 1-1 1-1 0-1 0-1 0-1 0-1
??™82 1-1 3-0 1-1 2-1 0-1 0-1 0-1 0-1
??™83 3-0 1-1 2-1 1-1 0-1 0-1 0-1 0-1
??™84 1-1 3-0 1-1 2-1 0-1 0-1 0-1 0-1
??™85 2-1 0-1 3-0 1-1 0-1 0-1 1-1 0-1
??™86 2-1 3-0 1-1 1-1 0-1 0-1 0-1 0-1
??™87 1-1 3-0 1-1 0-1 1-1 0-1 0-1
??™88 3-0 1-1 2-1 0-1 1-1 0-1 0-1 0-1
??™89 3-0 0-1 0-1 0-1 1-1 2-1 1-1 0-1
??™90 2-1 3-0 1-1 1-1 0-1 0-1 0-1 0-1
28-7 23-8 20-13 15-14 6-14 2-14 2-14 0-12 1-1 ---
St. Louis tournament results below:
??™91 3-0 2-1 1-1 0-1 1-1 0-1 0-1 0-1 1-1
??™92 1-1 1-1 3-0 0-1 2-1 0-1 0-1 0-1
??™93 2-1 3-0 1-1 0-1 1-1 0-1 0-1 0-1
??™94 1-1 1-1 3-0 0-1 2-1 0-1 0-1 0-1
??™95 2-1 1-1 3-0 1-1 0-1 0-1 0-1 0-1
??™96 2-1 1-1 3-0 1-1 0-1 0-1 0-1 0-1
??™97 3-0 1-1 2-1 1-1 0-1 0-1 0-1 0-1 1-1 1-1
??™98 3-0 0-1 2-1 1-1 0-1 0-1 2-1 1-1 0-1 0-1
??™99 2-1 3-0 1-1 1-1 0-1 0-1 1-1 0-1 1-1 0-1
??™00 1-1 2-1 1-1 3-0 0-1 0-1 0-1 0-1 1-1 1-1
??™01 1-1 2-1 1-1 0-1 3-0 0-1 0-1 1-1 0-1 1-1
??™02 2-1 3-0 1-1 1-1 0-1 0-1 1-1 1-1 0-1 0-1
??™03 2-1 3-0 1-1 1-1 0-1 0-1 0-1 0-1 1-1 1-1
??™04 1-1 3-0 1-1 0-1 2-1 0-1 0-1 0-1 1-1 1-1
??™05 1-1 1-1 3-0 0-1 2-1 0-1 1-1 0-1 1-1 0-1
???06 1-1 3-0 0-1 0-1 2-1 1-1 1-1 0-1 1-1 0-1
???07 2-1 3-0 1-1 1-1 0-1 0-1 0-1 0-1 1-1 1-1
???08 3-0 2-1 0-1 1-1 0-1 1-1 1-1 1-1 0-1 0-1
???09 3-0 1-1 2-1 1-1 0-1 0-1 1-1 0-1 1-1 0-1
STL 36-14 36-12 30-14 13-18 15-18 2-19 8-19 4-19 10-14 6-13
ALL 64-21 59-20 50-27 28-32 21-32 4-33 10-33 4-31 11-15 6-13

[Da Coach]

One more bit of info (sorry the formatting didn't copy right). This info is available on pages 138-140 of this guide-

http://www.mvc.org/mbb/tournament.pdf

VALLEY TOURNAMENT WON-LOST CHART
This chart outlines how Missouri Valley Conference teams have fared against one another during the 33-year history of the postseason Valley Tournament. The list includes active Valley members only, therefore the totals don??™t equal the school-by-school breakdowns. Read across.
TEAMS BU CU DU UE ILS INS MSU UNI SIU WSU Total
Bradley --- 4-3 4-3 1-1 3-3 3-3 1-3 2-1 2-5 4-1 27-28
Creighton 3-4 --- 3-2 1-0 4-2 6-1 6-4 1-0 6-1 5-1 36-18
Drake 3-4 2-3 --- 2-0 2-8 1-2 0-1 2-1 1-3 1-5 14-30
Evansville 1-1 0-1 0-2 --- 1-2 1-0 0-3 0-2 0-3 1-0 4-15
Illinois State 3-3 2-4 8-2 2-1 --- 3-2 4-1 4-3 3-4 4-2 34-24
Indiana State 3-3 1-6 2-1 0-1 2-3 --- 0-1 1-1 3-3 2-4 18-27
Missouri State 3-1 4-6 1-0 3-0 1-4 1-0 --- 1-2 3-4 4-1 23-18
UNI 1-2 0-1 1-2 2-0 3-4 1-1 2-1 --- 1-3 1-1 13-15
Southern Illinois 5-2 1-6 3-1 3-0 4-3 3-3 4-3 3-1 --- 1-3 31-25
Wichita State 1-4 1-5 5-1 0-1 2-4 4-2 1-4 1-1 3-1 --- 21-28
TOURNAMENT MISCELLANEOUS INFORMATION
NUMBER OF TOURNAMENTS -- 33
NUMBER OF TIMES REGULAR-SEASON CHAMPION HAS WON TOURNAMENT -- *13 (1977, 1978, 1979, 1980, #1984, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1997, 1998, +2002, 2008, =2009)
NUMBER OF TIMES REGULAR-SEASON CHAMPION HAS NOT WON TOURNAMENT -- *22 (1981, 1982, 1983, 1985, 1986, 1987, 1990, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1999, 2000, 2001, +2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, =2009)
NUMBER OF OVERTIME GAMES PLAYED -- 13
NUMBER OF TIMES REGULAR-SEASON CHAMPION HAS NOT REACHED FINALS -- *11 (1982, 1983, #1984, ^1992, 1994, 2000, 2001, 2004, 2005, 2006, =2009)
RECORD OF HOME TEAMS -- 63-13 (.829)
RECORD OF HOME TEAMS IN FIRST-ROUND GAME -- 37-6 (.860)
RECORD OF HOME TEAMS IN SEMIFINALS -- 17-4 (.810)
RECORD OF HOME TEAMS IN FINALS -- 9-3 (.750)
* -- Regular-season champion Wichita State was on probation in 1983 and ineligible to compete in the tournament; # -- Tulsa and Illinois State were co-champions in the regular season. Illinois State did not reach the finals; + -- Creighton and Southern Illinois were regular-season co-champions, and CU beat Southern Illinois in the finals; ^ -- Southern Illinois and Illinois State were co-champions in the regular season. Both Southern Illinois and Illinois State lost in the semifinals; =Creighton and UNI were co-champions in the regular season; UNI won the tournament, and Creighton lost in the semifinals.

[littlebishforpres]

I thought Bradley was due--which it is--but Wichita has an even longer drought than Bradley (by one year). And the Aces have never won.

Why not this year be the year the Braves end the MVC Tourney drought?

[lefty]

I'm surprised that a play-in team has not won the Valley tournament yet. I have seen I want to say Arkansas in the SEC several years ago winning four games to take the auto bid there, and someone from the Big Ten over the past decade doing the same thing.

With the parity in the middle of the Valley this year, I would not put it past a Missouri St. or even SIU to pull this off. Not likely though as I had picked in the Andy Katz thread the CU/BU winner or ISU to win the whole thing.

I'm not surprised really. When you think about it if they are in the play in then they don't have good records and doubtful if they have won 4 in a row during the season with rest and preperation. To win 4 in a row against teams with better conference records is a monumental task in my opinion unless there a was key player with an injury during the season and comes back for the tourney

[Bravesfan]

Here are all the championship teams and their seeds-

Year..Team..Seed
1977 SIU #1
1978 CU #1
1979 INSU #1
1980 BU #1
1981 CU #2
1982 TU #2
1983 ILSU #1
1984 TU #2
1985 WSU #3
1986 TU #2
1987 WSU #2
1988 BU #1
1989 CU #1
1990 ILSU #2
1991 CU #1
1992 MSU #3
1993 SIU #2
1994 SIU #3
1995 SIU #3
1996 TU #3
1997 ILSU #1
1998 ILSU #1
1999 CU #2
2000 CU #4
2001 INSU #5
2002 CU #2
2003 CU #2
2004 UNI #2
2005 CU #3
2006 SIU #2
2007 CU #2
2008 DU #1
2009 UNI #1

(TU is Tulsa- they left the MVC after 1996)

It looks like the majority of tournament winners have been #2 and #3 seeds over the past two decades. And notice the four years in which the top seed won the Valley tournament since the mid 90's have all been one bid years for the Valley.

I think the Valley knows how to "crack the code". They just need to go back to that philosophy this year!

[Da Coach]

Nearing the end of the first half, SIU leads Drake 25-18

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/scoreboard?d=2010-03-04&refresh=0&c=mvc

[mexicobufan]

22 years.........amazing for a basketball crazy town and school.

[shaunguth]

Drake used a 7-2 run to finish the half down 27-25.

[shaunguth]

FINAL
61 - SIU
63 - Drake