Not sure if this has been posted - Wilkins

[BUfan14]

http://www.cyclonefanatic.com/cyclone-recruiting/recruiting-notebook-wilkins-will-likely-attend-missouri-game

Here I found the article he was referring to...

[MacabreMob]

I no longer get excited about a recruit til I actually see the player suited up at Bradley in Red/White and on the floor at Carver. I just cut the cord and don't get worked up over this guy or that guy and 'ifs and buts' anymore regarding recruiting. I have no emotion for it. They wanna play for Bradley - then they will.

Thankyou Grundy for burning Bradley and saving me a lot of pain and agony over recruits that never will or never did play for Bradley.

Next.

[SFP]

I no longer get excited about a recruit til I actually see the player suited up at Bradley in Red/White and on the floor at Carver. I just cut the cord and don't get worked up over this guy or that guy and 'ifs and buts' anymore regarding recruiting. I have no emotion for it. They wanna play for Bradley - then they will.

Thankyou Grundy for burning Bradley and saving me a lot of pain and agony over recruits that never will or never did play for Bradley.

Next.

I was going to quote you but thankfully you chimed in! Ditto! BU would be the perfect situation for JW only if he can realize it.

[SFP]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves. He has not made any decision yet.

[Da Coach]

Where is our moderator post telling us all is well?

OK, here it comes...
We are acting like Chicken Little here. I have heard good things about JW and he is still very much considering Bradley. Whenever he makes his decision, Bradley will be one of the final schools. He has not eliminated Bradley.
We have seen this phenomenon before, where an article from a BCS school site often completely ignores mentioning any midmajor school that a kid is interested in. They probably can't fathom that Bradley would still be on his list along with heavyweights like Iowa State, Indiana, Providence, etc.

In the end, Bradley is going to lose more recruiting battles than they win, but I'd advise not getting totally defeated until it actually happens. And it has not happened yet. Bradley is still in the mix. And I'd take comfort in the fact that Iowa State is a last place team, and there is solid talk about a coaching change there. Also, they have only 1 open scholarship (L.A. Pomlee's scholarship), and there are a couple other kids they seem to want more than John Wilkins. I am sure he sees that. The same is true with Indiana.
He knows he would get immediate playing time at Bradley. He knows the Bradley coaches have been recruiting him the longest, and did the most work on his behalf to try to get all his transcripts, and appeal to the NCAA for eligibility. He has been in contact continuously with the BU coaches.
I still think the recruiting news will be good.

[tornado]

It will be hard to beat out BCS type programs, but we did for JP & DSE......
Providence has no open scholarship, and neither does Indiana....but of course they could always boot someone to open up a scholarship if they thought Wilkins was a game-changer...
but tell me why they'd ever think that? He hasn't played a game in a couple years...and the two things Indiana needs the most are a low post banger and a PG....neither of which is even remotely close to what Wilkins is...
If there's one thing Indiana is overloaded with it's bigger guys who don't like to play in the paint but play the wing...
(they already have Verdell Jones, Maurice Creek, then they already have Oladipo and Sheehey coming in next year...all these guys are 6-5 to 6-7 wing guys)
Anyway...both IU and Iowa State are firmly entrenched in the absolute bottoms of their respective leagues....something I am sure John knows......
and after nearly two years of not playing and working out...his juco coach still says...
"He has a lot of potential and a chance to be very good someday.
He is going to have to get stronger."
I am sure he knows that his potential to play right away is higher here then in the Big 12, B10, or Big East..and suspect he really doesn't want to get splinters all next year waiting his turn...

[ph]

OK, here it comes...
We are acting like Chicken Little here. I have heard good things about JW and he is still very much considering Bradley. Whenever he makes his decision, Bradley will be one of the final schools. He has not eliminated Bradley.
We have seen this phenomenon before, where an article from a BCS school site often completely ignores mentioning any midmajor school that a kid is interested. They probably can't fathom that Bradley would still be on his list along with heavyweights like Iowa State, Indiana, Providence, etc.

In the end, Bradley is going to lose more recruiting battles than they win, but I'd advise not getting totally defeated until it actually happens. And it has not happened yet. Bradley is still in the mix. And I'd take comfort in the fact that Iowa State is a last place team, and there is solid talk about a coaching change there. Also, they have only 1 open scholarship (L.A. Pomlee's scholarship), and there are a couple other kids they seem to want more than John Wilkins. I am sure he sees that. The same is true with Indiana.
He knows he would get immediate playing time at Bradley. He knows the Bradley coaches have been recruiting him the longest, and did the most work on his behalf to try to get all his transcripts, and appeal to the NCAA for eligibility. He has been in contact continuously with the BU coaches.
I still think the recruiting news will be good.

..used to be reported 100% BU, now we're just "in the mix"

[tornado]

would you rather we not be in the mix?

[Da Coach]

..used to be reported 100% BU, now we're just "in the mix"

It was 100% a year ago when he committed and was planning to come to Bradley. As we know, he would be playing for Bradley right now if the appropriate academic papers could have been obtained. Now that he is at the juco, he's open to recruiting again.

People are certainly welcome to torture themselves with the agony of believing that JW will never come to Bradley.

I prefer to wait until something actually becomes fact before I get worked up over it.

[PTownHawkeye]

This is cliche, but I want kids who WANT to be at BU. If it wasn't meant to be with JW, then we will move onto the next one. It seems like a number of times we have landed kids (TB and Will Franklin come to mind) who took the place of kids who did NOT want to be at BU.

From every bit of info out there both on this board and what is not posted on this board, Bradley is obviously still in the mix and it sounds like we will be in the final 3 with IU and Iowa St. I like our chances vs Iowa St and we do have at least 2 players on our roster who were offered by Iowa St but chose Bradley (can you imagine if Taylor Brown went there instead??).

We also have one who was offered by IU but chose BU. What concerns me about IU is that they could really sell the vision of being a part of turning a "once-great" program back to greatness. Indiana is at rock-bottom and JW probably sees an opportunity to play immediately. However, he is still unproven against D-I competition and would probably be better suited at BU.

[FarmerClone]

OK, here it comes...
We are acting like Chicken Little here. I have heard good things about JW and he is still very much considering Bradley. Whenever he makes his decision, Bradley will be one of the final schools. He has not eliminated Bradley.
We have seen this phenomenon before, where an article from a BCS school site often completely ignores mentioning any midmajor school that a kid is interested in. They probably can't fathom that Bradley would still be on his list along with heavyweights like Iowa State, Indiana, Providence, etc.

In the end, Bradley is going to lose more recruiting battles than they win, but I'd advise not getting totally defeated until it actually happens. And it has not happened yet. Bradley is still in the mix. And I'd take comfort in the fact that Iowa State is a last place team, and there is solid talk about a coaching change there. Also, they have only 1 open scholarship (L.A. Pomlee's scholarship), and there are a couple other kids they seem to want more than John Wilkins. I am sure he sees that. The same is true with Indiana.
He knows he would get immediate playing time at Bradley. He knows the Bradley coaches have been recruiting him the longest, and did the most work on his behalf to try to get all his transcripts, and appeal to the NCAA for eligibility. He has been in contact continuously with the BU coaches.
I still think the recruiting news will be good.

Actually, ISU likely has multiple scholarships available as I think Brackins and Gilstrap are leaving and likely one or two more players are transferring and I think the staff knows. The concept that Wilkins can make an immediate impact at Bradley, but not at ISU or Indiana is silly. Indiana and ISU are both BAD teams and ISU loses our best two players that play the three and four spots, which is where Wilkins will play. He has the opportunity to start from day one and be in the Big 12 where scouts will see him on a night in and night out basis. Right now, Marquis Gilstrap is being listed as a likely second round draft pick due to playing in the Big 12 in front of scouts every night. Can the NBA find you in the MVC? Heck yes they can, but ISU has had scouts at every Big 12 game this year, road and home I believe. Iowa State has been pushing hard to land him but I have no idea if we will. The rumors around McDermott I feel are just that, rumors. Time will tell if there is fire with the smoke.

[SaintLouBrave22]

would you rather we not be in the mix?

Yeah, because you may not want to believe it, but he's not coming here...



I'll pull the Joakim...If I am wrong, you can print this and I'll eat it next year at the tournament...BUT it just isn't happening T...

This guy is looking anywhere and everywhere to go somewhere else...


Good luck to him...at this point, I don't want him...its like having a gf, but going to all the bars trying to find someone else.

[Dallas Brave]

I think Bradley would have a lot of appeal to JW. It's clear that our guards are top notich and we have a great 3 in Taylor Brown. If JL is committed to playing bigger and putting JW and WE on the floor at the same time, Bradley could win the league crown for the next two years.

The fact that providence, Iowa St, and IU are interested is a good thing as it confirms the quality of JW.

[CubbieBear]

Yeah, because you may not want to believe it, but he's not coming here...


This guy is looking anywhere and everywhere to go somewhere else...


Good luck to him...at this point, I don't want him...its like having a gf, but going to all the bars trying to find someone else.

Agreed...all I have read on him lately, I don't want him either We can (and will) find a player who will fill our need and WANTS to be a Brave and not waffle about where he wants to play...let's just move on and put Wilkins in our rear view mirror

[SaintLouBrave22]

Agreed...all I have read on him lately, I don't want him either We can (and will) find a player who will fill our need and WANTS to be a Brave and not waffle about where he wants to play...let's just move on and put Wilkins in our rear view mirror

Agreed!


When we get a player, I want someone who WANTS desperately to be a Brave and really WANTS to be here...


Seems we've had enough trouble with players getting here and then not wanting to be here let alone a guy who is already this wishy-washy and hasn't even came to campus...



Just say no!