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  • My opinion on Wilkins is this: He verbally committed to BU already and has not said anything to the contrary so I take him at his word. I am a "loyalty guy". If he chooses to leave BU at the altar by going back on his word than he is not a man; he is an enemy and I wish him nothing but bad luck and would hope he never plays one minute of college ball.

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    • Originally posted by Braves4Life View Post
      My opinion on Wilkins is this: He verbally committed to BU already and has not said anything to the contrary so I take him at his word. I am a "loyalty guy". If he chooses to leave BU at the altar by going back on his word than he is not a man; he is an enemy and I wish him nothing but bad luck and would hope he never plays one minute of college ball.
      I'm also about loyalty, doing the right thing and taking a man at his word. I'll never wish bad things on anyone even if they go back on their word but they'll surely will lose my respect. A man has only one real thing in life between other men and that is his word. Lose that and what do you have? The problem I see in today's world is that people will say whatever they have to in order to feel good now instead of manning up and saying the truth. I do not know JW from Adam and he does not owe me a dime so I'll have zero hard feelings one way or the other, but I hope he has communicated his wishes already to JL. JL is a loyalty guy also! One of my favorite characteristics of a man!
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      • Originally posted by BUfan14 View Post
        False, Bradley has the potential and talent to make the tournament the next few years, I don't believe ISU does. And What do you gain out of being on a bottom of the Big-12 team?? Is it easier to win the MVC or get in the top tier of the Big 12??

        1. We are getting new facilities next year too.
        2. We have a great fan base too with top 50-60 attendance.
        3. We WILL be better than ISU next year, I'm pretty confident in that.
        4. You may be in the Big 12, but I believe this middle of the pack MVC team won the series against you.
        5. I don't think we will be middle of the pack next year, so potential top MVC team over bottom big twelve team? Yes sir.
        6. Even if we were middle of the pack again, you ask why would I pick middle of the pack MVC over bottom Big 12? Because why would I want to be on a team at the bottom losing most of my games in any conference?? "Well were at the bottom, but we're in the Big 12" doesn't make me feel any better, that just means we have a longer way back to the top because the teams are better. Losing isn't fun I don't care what conference you're in.

        7. The fans here obviously care more for Wilkins and he would be more loved by our fans than at ISU, he would just be one of the boys there to most.
        8. the MVC will be a multiple bid league again next year-book it.
        9. JL's system is perfect for an athletic perimeter forward of his nature.
        10. He will have instant playing time here too, so that's a wash.
        11. He could very well be a #1 option here, probably not at ISU right away. What would impress NBA scouts more?
        12. It's not like we have gotten blasted this year either, a few home collapses away from a decent season.
        13. ISU just beat KSU. so what? We beat Illinois and UNI while they were ranked, so what?? We still weren't good enough in every other game.

        I understand where your coming from and I'm probably just really biased here, but I see Bradley being a much better choice for JW. It's not that you having nothing to offer prospects, cause you definitely do. But I think in JW's particular case, we are a better option.
        End of the day, doesn't matter what you or I think. I wish Wilkins the best in finding whatever place he feels most comfortable. Whatever school it is I wish him the best.

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        • Originally posted by FarmerClone View Post
          End of the day, doesn't matter what you or I think. I wish Wilkins the best in finding whatever place he feels most comfortable. Whatever school it is I wish him the best.
          That my friend we can definitely agree on. I've said it before, it is smart of him to consider his options, and I certainly wish him no harm either way. I hope he chooses BU, but I hold no grudges if he doesn't. I would never wish harm on anyone. I hope he does what he thinks is best for him, like any of us would.

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          • Originally posted by BUfan14 View Post
            That my friend we can definitely agree on. I've said it before, it is smart of him to consider his options, and I certainly wish him no harm either way. I hope he chooses BU, but I hold no grudges if he doesn't. I would never wish harm on anyone. I hope he does what he thinks is best for him, like any of us would.
            Wherever he may go besides BU....I really hope Bradley plays them next year.

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            • Originally posted by Braves4Life View Post
              My opinion on Wilkins is this: He verbally committed to BU already and has not said anything to the contrary so I take him at his word. I am a "loyalty guy". If he chooses to leave BU at the altar by going back on his word than he is not a man; he is an enemy and I wish him nothing but bad luck and would hope he never plays one minute of college ball.
              but any pledge, verbal, or even a Letter of Intent immediately become null and void and is meaningless if the student is UNABLE to enroll or qualify for scholarship (in the case of the LOI)...thus John Wilkins is NOT bound by any verbal....he can freely do as he pleases, and I strongly support the kid's right to decide what is best for him and his family...
              (even if the choice is NOT BU and seems to be against his best interests).
              After all, it is HIS choice, and I infinitely defend his right to pick as he wishes...I just hope he chooses wisely....

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              • I have some 's for anyone. Did JW ever come directly out and say, Bradley is my school/choice: When and wheredoubt: If so has he repeatedly confirmed this? I have read all about his grade transcripts, the NCAA and NJCAA rulings and all the stories about Indiana, Iowa State and others making offers. Has he truly been offered by anyone If you know for sure. please name them. Has anyone seen him play sense he hit this soil I know he played in a couple invite play-ins. I don't think he has not played in any kind of organized ball for two years Is he as good as we have been lead on to think by some
                I am about loyalty, but someone please help me out Why should we be concerning our self's as BU fan's about a player who has not proven himself on the court, is wavering the road on BU, has no other legit offers from other schools, is being portrayed as the answer to next years success and the future of BU BB

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                • Originally posted by Out of Balance View Post
                  I have some 's for anyone. Did JW ever come directly out and say, Bradley is my school/choice: When and wheredoubt: If so has he repeatedly confirmed this? I have read all about his grade transcripts, the NCAA and NJCAA rulings and all the stories about Indiana, Iowa State and others making offers. Has he truly been offered by anyone If you know for sure. please name them. Has anyone seen him play sense he hit this soil I know he played in a couple invite play-ins. I don't think he has not played in any kind of organized ball for two years Is he as good as we have been lead on to think by some
                  I am about loyalty, but someone please help me out Why should we be concerning our self's as BU fan's about a player who has not proven himself on the court, is wavering the road on BU, has no other legit offers from other schools, is being portrayed as the answer to next years success and the future of BU BB
                  hmmm...most of your questions have been answered many times on this board...but here goes...

                  John Wilkins did give a pledge to come to BU and in the process turned down more than 50 other offers...and yes-- plenty of people have seen him play...probably in the hundreds of recruiters...
                  Even Coach Molinari told me personally he saw JW play in the Vegas AAU events and had "some nice words"...
                  Those "50 offers" were confirmed by many sources, as he was inundated with offers when he was playing AAU ball in numerous games during the July recruiting period of 2008.
                  He has also been seen and recruited in the Iowa open gyms and practices all year, and this has been undeniably confirmed several times by his coach...

                  as to what constitutes an "offer", then you can form your own opinion, but they range all the way from "we want you now and have a full scholarship & will build our program around you"...
                  to:
                  "maybe come and visit our campus and if it works out we'll find a way to open up something and you can play for us"...

                  Anyway, I personally have NO doubt that the 50 offers from last summer were legit, some requiring redshirt and some hinging on eligibility,
                  and the recent offers are likely all a bit softer and hinge on his willingness to come and visit and let his desires be known where he wants to play.

                  as for how good he is....that is subjective and I will leave to your assessment...

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                  • Originally posted by tornado View Post
                    hmmm...most of your questions have been answered many times on this board...but here goes...

                    John Wilkins did give a pledge to come to BU and in the process turned down more than 50 other offers...and yes-- plenty of people have seen him play...probably in the hundreds of recruiters...
                    Even Coach Molinari told me personally he saw JW play in the Vegas AAU events and had "some nice words"...
                    Those "50 offers" were confirmed by many sources, as he was inundated with offers when he was playing AAU ball in numerous games during the July recruiting period of 2008.
                    He has also been seen and recruited in the Iowa open gyms and practices all year, and this has been undeniably confirmed several times by his coach...

                    as to what constitutes an "offer", then you can form your own opinion, but they range all the way from "we want you now and have a full scholarship & will build our program around you"...
                    to:
                    "maybe come and visit our campus and if it works out we'll find a way to open up something and you can play for us"...

                    Anyway, I personally have NO doubt that the 50 offers from last summer were legit, some requiring redshirt and some hinging on eligibility,
                    and the recent offers are likely all a bit softer and hinge on his willingness to come and visit and let his desires be known where he wants to play.

                    as for how good he is....that is subjective and I will leave to your assessment...
                    You dance good T But I will pass I think a legit offer to most of us confused and not so smart fans/posters, means, (we are offering you a scholarship to play BB for us) We don't care about 50 offers from come to our gym for a shoot around, a game of horse or the school's dance Geeeee's Come On Man Just answer the 's if you truly can, or please just pass to someone else that can and will not just throw out a bunch of BS
                    Thanks

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                    • Originally posted by Out of Balance View Post
                      Geeeee's Come On Man Just answer the 's if you truly can, or please just pass to someone else that can and will not just throw out a bunch of BS
                      Thanks
                      Say what you mean OoB. I'm guessing you're NOT running for office any time soon.

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                      • Well ESPN now lists Providence, Indiana, and Iowa State as being considered, not Bradley, typical of ESPN to leave the "mid-major" out. I don't have insider so I don't know what else it says.



                        As far as his game, I have never seen him nor do I know anything about his game. But from what I've heard on here and read in articles he is the real deal.

                        From all the observations I've gathered from reading I would compare his game to that of Rashard Lewis. Kind of a long lanky perimeter forward with a good outside shot, ability to pass, and handle the ball. Can play both forward spots, is very athletic, but needs to get a little stronger to be a great rebounder but isn't bad at it now. Rashard is 6'10, JW is 6'9. All those qualities seem very similar to me...but then again I'm just going on hearsay so I really have no idea just speculating.

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                        • Originally posted by BUfan14 View Post
                          Well ESPN now lists Providence, Indiana, and Iowa State as being considered, not Bradley, typical of ESPN to leave the "mid-major" out......
                          You are correct. Bradley has not been eliminated and are still in communication with JW.
                          One of those other schools has been eliminated, though.

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                          • Just about every JW post seems to grow beyond measure. Can we all agree that we would love to have him at BU and for the time being until we hear anything concrete we leave it alone? Speculation on this will drive everyone crazy and for now unless we hear it from JW himself is pure speculation.
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                            • Originally posted by SFP View Post
                              Just about every JW post seems to grow beyond measure. Can we all agree that we would love to have him at BU and for the time being until we hear anything concrete we leave it alone? Speculation on this will drive everyone crazy and for now unless we hear it from JW himself is pure speculation.
                              We should make the mention of his name taboo....I am going crazy

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                              • Originally posted by BUfan14 View Post
                                Well ESPN now lists Providence, Indiana, and Iowa State as being considered, not Bradley, typical of ESPN to leave the "mid-major" out. I don't have insider so I don't know what else it says.



                                As far as his game, I have never seen him nor do I know anything about his game. But from what I've heard on here and read in articles he is the real deal.

                                From all the observations I've gathered from reading I would compare his game to that of Rashard Lewis. Kind of a long lanky perimeter forward with a good outside shot, ability to pass, and handle the ball. Can play both forward spots, is very athletic, but needs to get a little stronger to be a great rebounder but isn't bad at it now. Rashard is 6'10, JW is 6'9. All those qualities seem very similar to me...but then again I'm just going on hearsay so I really have no idea just speculating.
                                Thanks BUfan14, I know what you mean about ESPN Anyway, hearsay
                                is my point and reason for my 's Hell, at this point, if he is by chance wanting to come to BU, or for that matter any other school. is he on track to meet the NCAA rules that would allow him to do so
                                My 's are still there and hoping someone can give a honest answer to the honest, fair 's I asked

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