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  • #16
    A few Arch Madness articles-

    From the St. Louis Post Dispatch-
    MVC Tournament in St. Louis is a two-decade love affair (nice pic of Deon Jackson)




    From the Omaha World herald
    Valley tourney could get crazy in St. Louis


    From the Alton Telegraph
    Parity name of the game for MVC Tournament

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    • #17
      I went through both games against Creighton to find the +/- points while any given player and combination of players were on the floor. Then I calculated those numbers on a "per 40" basis to put each player/group of players on the same scale.


      According to what players have produced against Creighton this season, I wouldn't mind starting the highlighted players below.
      ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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      • #18
        Doesn't this week seem like forever in anticipation of Friday's game?
        Just want that sour taste out of my mouth after another loss to Creighton the other day...hope it doesn't get any more sour!

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        • #19
          Thanks for all the work, shaunguth! Very interesting numbers.

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          • #20
            You should have an asterisk next to AW because he was pretty sick out there on Saturday. I feel pretty good about Friday's game. DSE will not play as bad, we may not see JSE score as many as he did but the other guys who had a bad day will make up for it. Frankly scoring was not a problem, our defense was and that can be fixed IMO.
            "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
            ??” Thomas Jefferson
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            • #21
              Originally posted by SFP View Post
              You should have an asterisk next to AW because he was pretty sick out there on Saturday. I feel pretty good about Friday's game. DSE will not play as bad, we may not see JSE score as many as he did but the other guys who had a bad day will make up for it. Frankly scoring was not a problem, our defense was and that can be fixed IMO.
              Just showing the scoring trend while each player was on the floor for those two games. Not sure how else to assess the situation as it takes into account defense as well as offense.
              ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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              • #22
                Originally posted by SFP View Post
                You should have an asterisk next to AW because he was pretty sick out there on Saturday. I feel pretty good about Friday's game. DSE will not play as bad, we may not see JSE score as many as he did but the other guys who had a bad day will make up for it. Frankly scoring was not a problem, our defense was and that can be fixed IMO.


                You also forgot that Sammy had only 3 points, and he's not had consecutive games like that since the beginning of the season.

                I agree about DSE, but it seems like everyone continues to make excuses about AW...
                This can be bulletin board material, I don't care...


                How about this...



                When is he going to actually play two WHOLE halves?!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View Post
                  You also forgot that Sammy had only 3 points, and he's not had consecutive games like that since the beginning of the season.

                  I agree about DSE, but it seems like everyone continues to make excuses about AW...
                  This can be bulletin board material, I don't care...


                  How about this...



                  When is he going to actually play two WHOLE halves?!
                  I'm not making excuses for him but most players would not have suited up on Saturday if they felt like he did. I did hear it from a very reliable source that he could barely eat. I also wish he was a bit more aggressive but do we have anyone that can fill his shoes where opposing teams cannot double up on the post and leave them alone like him. SM is the other guy but after him there is no one else. After a year of not being able to play ball at all I believe he is playing pretty well. I do expect much higher level of ball from him though next year.
                  "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
                  ??” Thomas Jefferson
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                  • #24
                    Seems that BU teams that win in Arch Madness do not tally up a bunch of points, but defense has been the key.
                    Also, big runs contribute too. Last year, BU had a couple good spurts where they found ways to score and then made stops (vs. SIU).
                    We just can't allow CU to go on big runs, as they did 2 years ago, and have done twice to us this year.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by SFP View Post
                      I'm not making excuses for him but most players would not have suited up on Saturday if they felt like he did. I did hear it from a very reliable source that he could barely eat. I also wish he was a bit more aggressive but do we have anyone that can fill his shoes where opposing teams cannot double up on the post and leave them alone like him. SM is the other guy but after him there is no one else. After a year of not being able to play ball at all I believe he is playing pretty well. I do expect much higher level of ball from him though next year.
                      Frankly, he disappoints me as its not the talent level thats the issue...he HAS the talent...

                      I just still get the feeling with Drew that he feels like he can turn it on and off whenever he wants to, and plays at half speed sometimes...


                      I'll say what I was getting at with C-Rob in the other thread, IF everyone played with the heart, intensity, and energy that Chris leaves out on the floor every game, this team would be top 3, regardless of the coaching.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by LittleBrave View Post
                        Seems that BU teams that win in Arch Madness do not tally up a bunch of points, but defense has been the key.
                        Also, big runs contribute too. Last year, BU had a couple good spurts where they found ways to score and then made stops (vs. SIU).
                        We just can't allow CU to go on big runs, as they did 2 years ago, and have done twice to us this year.
                        The first 4 minutes of 2nd halves and last 4 of the 1st halves are always the key with this team.

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                        • #27
                          I'M FIRED UP!!! I think we will get the WIN on Friday.

                          I don't believe a team has a tough time beating another team 3 times in a year. A much better team should always win.

                          But that is not the case here - We will match up well with Creighton. Will = Stay out of Foul Trouble!

                          GO BRAVES!!
                          It's not Business, It's Personal

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                          • #28
                            Biggest game of the year for BU!
                            BUilding for the Future

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                            • #29
                              For those interested in such things, here's how each game turned out for +/- points per 40 for each player/combination of players......

                              ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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                              • #30
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                                Originally posted by shaunguth View Post
                                I went through both games against Creighton to find the +/- points while any given player and combination of players were on the floor. Then I calculated those numbers on a "per 40" basis to put each player/group of players on the same scale.


                                According to what players have produced against Creighton this season, I wouldn't mind starting the highlighted players below.
                                I actually agree with this. I like that starting lineup for tomorrow. but we all know that would NEVER happen.

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