Standings and stats as on 2/25/10

[ER3]

....I support the team, I cheer at the games and I want success not failure...

This is what all of us do...and want.

[BradleyJD]

I'd STILL like to know who those people are. I know the VAST majority of fans on this board that are posting right now and not a single one of them is hoping for BU to fail.

I even know a couple that used to post here alot...left and visit from time to time and are in the group of frustrated fans but go to EVERY game....travel with BU alot and root for BU as loudly as, well as I do.

I'm frustrated right now.....but I'm on a plane for the game in CU Sat. morning and am heading to St Louis next week. I'll be louder then anyone at the qwest center and as loud or louder then anyone in St Louis.

WHO are these people?

Have fun in Omaha...and I agree with your post as well!

[dogsrus]

ditto

JD....you are the defenition of a GREAT BU fan.

[TheAsianSensation]

Um, people criticizing the team right now wants it to succeed, you know. That's why they're criticizing. Because they want and expect better.

That's what I hate. There is no middle ground. Either you're considered to be too positive and naive about the direction of the program or you hate the program to the bone and wish despair upon it. Why does everyone try to boil fans down into one of these two categories when neither category really actually applies to any of the fans? And I'm not talking about the "extremists". Every fan base has the occasional nut. I'm talking about the apparent need to group all casual fans into one of these two categories.

It seems like I have to post this rant every two weeks now. Jesus.

[dogsrus]

Um, people criticizing the team right now wants it to succeed, you know. That's why they're criticizing. Because they want and expect better.

That's what I hate. There is no middle ground. Either you're considered to be too positive and naive about the direction of the program or you hate the program to the bone and wish despair upon it. Why does everyone try to boil fans down into one of these two categories when neither category really actually applies to any of the fans? And I'm not talking about the "extremists". Every fan base has the occasional nut. I'm talking about the apparent need to group all casual fans into one of these two categories.

It seems like I have to post this rant every two weeks now. Jesus.

AS have I ...well put. I respect ANYONE that can be totally happy or be satisified with how BU is playing NOW and has for the last 8 years. Its YOUR team and its YOUR feelings. .

Go with it...


But I ALSO understand how some aren't totally happy, want and expect more and STILL remain great, loyal and TRUE fans. And you couldn't have said it any better...they, including myself, criticise becuase we do indeed want "better" which is subjective.

And yes...not the occasional ONE fan that posts on a site under different names to flame.....

Look at the post counts of ALL these posters. ALL of them want BU to succeed. Of this I'm convinced. Haters do not have 2,3 4 thousand posts...they have 1,2,3.....

[Grassman]

Playing devil's advocate:

We're comparable to SIU, Creighton, UNI in this respect, OK. But guess what: Since 2005, they've each won the conference tournament. We haven't.



The fact is here that both sides can argue until they're blue in the face because there are stats and trends that favor both sides of whatever argument is going on in here.

Yep when you are Normal, Mediocre, aversge, the mean, medium, mode. Plenty of room to debate on both sides. But is that where we want to be?.

[shaunguth]

He must be counting the MVC Tournament record, which is 4-7.

Since when did they start calling the 2nd round of the NIT the 'Sweet 16'?

Probably around the same time they started considering conference tournaments to be postseason appearances.

[shaunguth]

The Conference regular season ends... a conference champ is crowned... then the postseason begins!

So just about every team in the country has a postseason appearance every year?

[shaunguth]

C) the list of teams ISU has faced in the post-season the past four years going 1-2

You forgot about all their postseason games in St. Louis!

[BradleyBrave]

Where did Air Petey go?

[dogsrus]

Where did Air Petey go?

I dunno...but if he has a son is he "heir" Petey.

Sorry...I'm tired.

[tornado]

Where did Air Petey go?

Air Petey is around...he just PM'em me so we can be sure to meet in St. Louis
and just posted a couple hours ago...

http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?p=169217#post169217

[BradleyJD]

JD....you are the defenition of a GREAT BU fan.

Thank you sir. I would say the same for you.

[bigdaddystuck]

I applaud those fans who are so passionate for BU. That includes those who feel that we are great right now and those who feel we should/could be better!

[MacabreMob]

Probably around the same time they started considering conference tournaments to be postseason appearances.

So just about every team in the country has a postseason appearance every year?

I think I am with you Shaunguth on this one.

When it comes to scheduling, teams are allowed something like 29 games. Conference Tourneys count as 1 game on a teams schedule (whether they play 1 game or 5 games). The number changes down to 28 (I think) if a team plays in an In-Season Tourney (like our Las Vegas Tourney this past season) that allows teams to get 2 or 3 extra games but only count as "1".

Therefore - Conference Tourney games are not really considered "post-season" games.

Which also makes sense when I see Jerry Palm's rpi info. He calculates games played in conference tournies (as does the NCAA) toward a teams rpi. Games after that are not included - they are considered "post-season".