Standings and stats as on 2/25/10

[Da Coach]

Current MVC standings-
Northern Iowa........14-3...24-4
Wichita St.............11-6...22-8
Illinois St...............11-6...21-8
Bradley.................9-8....15-13
Creighton..............9-8....15-14
Missouri St............8-9....19-10
Indiana St.............8-9....16-13
Drake...................7-10...13-17
Southern Ill...........6-11...15-13
Evansville.............2-15....8-20

Stats through games of 2/26/10:

Overall stats-

http://www.mvc.org/mbb/stats/CONFLDRS.HTM

Conference games only-

http://www.mvc.org/mbb/stats/CONFONLY.HTM

[tornado]

Here is how the teams were picked in the "MVC Men's Basketball Preseason Poll"


1- UNI (38 ) 389
2- Creighton (1) 336
3- Illinois State 299
4- Southern Illinois 272
5-Wichita State 216
6- Bradley 208
7- Indiana State 173
8- Drake 105
9- Missouri State 92
10- Evansville 55

http://www.mvc-sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=36371&SPID=2901&DB_OEM_ID=7600&ATCLID=204821437

You can complain all you want about how Bradley has underperformed this season, but you know what?
Of the top teams in the Valley (the TOP 6), ONLY Bradley and Wichita State are doing any better than they were expected to do!!
I guess this means Bradley has "exceeded expectations"?? ...at least they have exceeded the expectations of the people who did the voting.

[epistibrain]

Looking at the individual stats for conference games, Bradley has the first, second, and fourth leading scorers among non-seniors (3,4, and 8 overall). That certainly bodes well for next season.

(But of course it would be nice if they could bring three good games to St. Louis and be able to say they have three of the top four returning scorers in the MVC AND are coming off an NCAA appearance!)

[BradleyJD]

You can complain all you want about how Bradley has underperformed this season, but you know what?

I guess this means Bradley has "exceeded expectations"?? ...at least they have exceeded the expectations of the people who did the voting.

I will say this, BU has not exceeded my expectations. Tornado, even you had BU fighting for one of the top 3 spots. They certainly did not do that.

All that said, BU is about a .500 team. Some days they show up, some days they do not.

They could lose game 1 in STL or win em all....you just cannot tell with this team.

IMO, the average BU fan would not say that BU has "exceeded" their expectations for this season.

[tornado]

disagree-----...until the final 3-4 games of the season, BU was still well in the hunt for 2nd place in the Valley...
way better than almost anyone had predicted....and only a couple tiny breaks from sitting on a 7 game win streak....
Two losses down the stretch by a combined total of JUST ONE POINT (the 1 pt loss to ISU and the OT loss at Indiana State)
would have given us 2nd place had we won those...
Two weeks ago, and in fact even as recently as ONE week ago -- everyone was booking rooms for Thursday....

[BradleyJD]

wrong...until the final 3-4 games of the season, BU was still well in the hunt for 2nd place in the Valley...
way better than almost anyone had predicted....

As I said, I do not believe Bradley exceeded many BU fan's expectations.

[ph]

..and if we won those 3 home games, we would be in 2nd and ISU would be 4th

[Buesch N Chips]

As I said, I do not believe Bradley exceeded many BU fan's expectations.

I would probably agree with this (this is happening way too often JD) but I would also submit that they have not really under-achieved either. I think the nature of some of the losses is what has people more frustrated than they probably should be, which is natural. It's the "could-a-beens" that drive people crazy. Certain players have exceeded expectations (SM, DSE, TB), certain players have done ok (pretty much everyone else). Maybe a couple have performed below what people expected. It was a very average season, pretty much like every other season since Hersey Hawkins was here. Nothing to panic about, and nothing to really shout from the rooftops about.

[TheAsianSensation]

Someone untie the tiebreakers for me - are we officially out of Thursday?

[Da Coach]

Someone untie the tiebreakers for me - are we officially out of Thursday?

Yes, officially out of Thursday. BU will be either 4 (if we beat CU), and 5 if we lose in Omaha.

[LittleBrave]

Two weeks ago, and in fact even as recently as ONE week ago -- everyone was booking rooms for Thursday....

or cancelling room reservations for Friday.

[flipper]

I will say this, BU has not exceeded my expectations. Tornado, even you had BU fighting for one of the top 3 spots. They certainly did not do that.

All that said, BU is about a .500 team. Some days they show up, some days they do not.

They could lose game 1 in STL or win em all....you just cannot tell with this team.

IMO, the average BU fan would not say that BU has "exceeded" their expectations for this season.

Bu's performace this season has not exceeded MY expectations of this team. i thought we would challenge for a conference championship and have a better home record. being slightly above .500 is not as good as i thought we'd be.

[houstontxbrave]

I do not care for one second what was predicted about this season. What I have seen from this team this year, there is absolutely no way it has exceeded anyones expectations, if it has then you have not been paying any attention or you are trying to spin something.

You can not lose multipule home game in the conference and in a couple have double digit leads and expect anyone to buy that expectations were exceeded. If anything, after blowing double digit home leads this team has under performed.

I will guarantee Jim Les would not say that 15-13 and 9-8 in conference is anywhere near exceeding his expectations.

4th or 5th place in this conference is average at best, but after looking at each game individually, 4th/5th place after the opportunities BU has had this year is nothing but under performing.

[BradleyJD]

I do not care for one second what was predicted about this season. What I have seen from this team this year, there is absolutely no way it has exceeded anyones expectations, if it has then you have not been paying any attention or you are trying to spin something.



I will guarantee Jim Les would not say that 15-13 and 9-8 in conference is anywhere near exceeding his expectations.

Well said.

[SFP]

Bu's performace this season has not exceeded MY expectations of this team. i thought we would challenge for a conference championship and have a better home record. being slightly above .500 is not as good as i thought we'd be.

I'm in this camp and I bet the team as a whole is also. We are one big from being way above average.