UNI in trouble??

[MacabreMob]

Here's a list of some possible Bubble Bursters:

(RPI team name)
15 Butler
22 UNI
23 California
26 Gonzaga
35 Utah St
36 Siena
42 ODU
49 Cornell
53 UTEP
54 Kent

Here's a list of some teams that are in the Top 100 RPI and are leading their conferences but won't get an At-Large

67 Oakland
71 Weber St
73 Sam Houston St
74 Murray St
86 Wofford/99 Coll of Charleston

[squirrelgotdead]

I would love to see Oakland dance. . .

Their non-con was a disappointment as they struggled to replace the scoring, shooting, and leadership of Kangas, but after starting 6-7 they've gone 16-1.

As we saw last year, they are built like a BCS team and could be a nightmare opening draw for nearly anyone in the field. . .

[MacabreMob]

Another thing I find amusing.... I bet the bunch of people who claim UNI is on their way out will also tell me that this team is IN....

UNI
24-4
RPI 22
SOS 116
3-1 vs Top 50 RPI
8-1 vs Top 100 RPI

???????
18-10
RPI 65
SOS 59
4-6 vs Top 50 RPI
6-8 vs Top 100 RPI

[BradleyJD]

has anyone learned anything over the past 4 years???
Of course they'd leave UNI out if they even had a tiny chance to do so...

The selection committee is not and has not been kind to any midmajor...

...and you have Bob Huggins suggesting creating a 1-AA group like in football too.

[tornado]

and don't be fooled when any of the top coaches say they are in favor of expanding the NCAA Tournament to 96 or 100 teams...

they are only interested in getting more BCS teams that finish 5th, 6th, 7th, and 8th in their respective leagues into the dance...

they are NOT in any way hinting additional mid-majors get in...and I am sure they'll devise some system to assure they get what they want.

remember...it was the BCS guys themselves that devised the RPI system for the sole purpose of showing that their 5-6-7th place teams were still
stronger than, better than, and more deserving of an at-large bid than any mid-major...
but once the RPI started to prove the exact opposite as they want, then they trash the whole RPI idea, and now they go with the "eye test"...that
hear repeated over and over...meaning they are using a subjective measure that they claim only they can accurately perform...and that lo and behold, it
favors the big boys...

[TheAsianSensation]

I'm trying really hard not to go on a major rant in this thread. I may need Mac to censor me at some point.

[Braves4Life]

I believe that if UNI loses against ISU and loses in either the first or second game of MVC Tourney that they will not dance...... We'll see.

[MacabreMob]

I'm trying really hard not to go on a major rant in this thread. I may need Mac to censor me at some point.

I'm trying hard not to go off myself.

[BradleyJD]

I believe that if UNI loses against ISU and loses in either the first or second game of MVC Tourney that they will not dance...... We'll see.

CBS does not list them in their "Safe List"

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bubble?tag=untagged

[Braves4Life]

Palm has UNI in but that assumes they win the MVC Tourney; I don't think they will. Then what?

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/story/collegebasketball-projecting-the-field?tag=untagged

[TheAsianSensation]

Ok, everyone still on the conspiracy theory that program status (i.e. if the program is BCS or not) is a major factor in it getting at large bids needs to take a step back. Now, yes, playing in that BCS conferences gives it advantages in their resume. But that's an issue of evaluation of criteria, not of bias on the selection committee. Anyone who thinks UConn is getting a bid because of their prestige is an *****. They're getting a bid because they beat two top 10 teams in the past week and improved their resume.


Now, it's true the borderline mid-major teams have gotten the shaft the last couple of years. But the no-brainer mid-major teams DON'T. And UNI is a no-brainer, for the love of God.

[Tulsa Brave]

I guess Gonzaga must be out then since they lost to both San Francisco and Loyola Marymount!

[MacabreMob]

Maybe this might help things...

Jerry Palm breaks down the teams on the bubble like this:

In (26 teams):
ACC: Duke, Wake Forest
Big 12: Baylor, Kansas, Kansas St, Texas, Texas A&M
Big East: Georgetown, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Villanova, West Virginia
Big Ten: Purdue, Michigan St, Ohio St, Wisconsin
SEC: Kentucky, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
A-10: Richmond, Temple, Xavier
Horizon: Butler
Mtn W: BYU, New Mexico
West Coast: Gonzaga
One bid only (18 ): America East, Atlantic Sun, Big Sky, Big South, Big West, Ivy, MAAC, MAC, MEAC, Northeast, Ohio Valley, Patriot, Southern, Southland, Summit, Sun Belt, SWAC, WAC
Number of spots remaining in the field: 21
Number of teams listed below: 30. That means that at least 9 teams listed on this page will not make the tournament.


CLEMSON
FLORIDA ST
GEORGIA TECH
MARYLAND
VIRGINIA TECH
MISSOURI
OKLAHOMA ST
CINCINNATI
CONNECTICUT
LOUISVILLE
MARQUETTE
SETON HALL
ST JOHNS
ILLINOIS
CALIFORNIA
ARIZONA ST
FLORIDA
MISSISSIPPI
MISSISSIPPI ST
CHARLOTTE
DAYTON
RHODE ISLAND
SAN DIEGO ST
UNLV
ODU
UAB
UTEP
UNI
UTAH ST
ST MARYS

[Braves4Life]

Ok, everyone still on the conspiracy theory that program status (i.e. if the program is BCS or not) is a major factor in it getting at large bids needs to take a step back. Now, yes, playing in that BCS conferences gives it advantages in their resume. But that's an issue of evaluation of criteria, not of bias on the selection committee. Anyone who thinks UConn is getting a bid because of their prestige is an *****. They're getting a bid because they beat two top 10 teams in the past week and improved their resume.


Now, it's true the borderline mid-major teams have gotten the shaft the last couple of years. But the no-brainer mid-major teams DON'T. And UNI is a no-brainer, for the love of God.

I agree with everything you just said until your last line. If there were decent odds that UNI would not make the NCAA Tourney I would take that bet.

[Da Coach]

Here is an ESPN article with some interesting quotes. You can see the Power Conference guys are already setting themselves up to get as many of their own into the tournament as they can-

Will 10-8 in the Big East be enough?

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog/_/name/katz_andy/id/4941820/will-10-8-big-east-enough

the answer is- of course it will. Who is Andy Katz kidding?
Does anyone want to make a bet? Who thinks there is any chance of a Big East team with a winning league record not gettin in? Let's bet.