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    Indiana State has lost 3 of its top 4 scorers and yet still wins at home against teams with better records?

    Hmmmmmm
    ???We all want Bradley to win. If our methods and visions for that are different, then so be it. Don't ever attempt to tell me I am not a fan!???

  • #2
    It happens. Bradley also won at home last Saturday against UNI, a team with the best record in the MVC.
    Indiana State has also beaten Creighton, SIU, Illinois State, Drake, and Evansville at home. Wichita State and UNI are the only conference games they have lost at home all year.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Braveman View Post
      Indiana State has lost 3 of its top 4 scorers and yet still wins at home against teams with better records?

      Hmmmmmm
      A good question. It seems Bradley is the only school that cannot deal with injuries.
      When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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      • #4
        BU has done considerably better than Indiana State despite considerably MORE injury issues...facts are facts...

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        • #5
          Originally posted by tornado View Post
          BU has done considerably better than Indiana State despite considerably MORE injury issues...facts are facts...
          Facts are facts.... Here are the InSU and Bradley records for THIS YEAR! (the year we are talking about). Conference first, then overall.

          Indiana State 8-8 .500 16-11 .593
          Bradley 8-8 .500 13-13 .500


          Originally posted by tornado View Post
          facts are facts...
          When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by tornado View Post
            BU has done considerably better than Indiana State despite considerably MORE injury issues...facts are facts...
            http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread...769#post166769
            I am talking about this year- not last....

            BU has a worse record, and didn't lose 3 of its top 4 scorers....
            ???We all want Bradley to win. If our methods and visions for that are different, then so be it. Don't ever attempt to tell me I am not a fan!???

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            • #7
              played a harder schedule

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BradleyJD View Post
                Facts are facts.... Here are the InSU and Bradley records for THIS YEAR! (the year we are talking about). Conference first, then overall.

                Indiana State 8-8 .500 16-11 .593
                Bradley 8-8 .500 13-13 .500
                Indiana St
                Vs RPI Top 50 0-4
                Vs RPI Top 100 3-5
                Worst RPI Loss at #214 LSU

                Bradley
                Vs RPI Top 50 1-4
                Vs RPI Top 100 5-8
                Worst RPI Loss vs #185 Loyola

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by MacabreMob View Post
                  Indiana St
                  Vs RPI Top 50 0-4
                  Vs RPI Top 100 3-5
                  Worst RPI Loss at #214 LSU

                  Bradley
                  Vs RPI Top 50 1-4
                  Vs RPI Top 100 5-8
                  Worst RPI Loss vs #185 Loyola
                  Okay?

                  So they both have losing records against the Top 50 and the Top 100. Great

                  I love the whole strength schedule debate on here. Does it do anything to schedule tough and then lose as much as we do??

                  Is the tougher non-con getting us ready for the MVC race??

                  We finish in the middle of the pack every year....what is the non-con scheduling doing for us???
                  When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BradleyJD View Post
                    Okay?

                    So they both have losing records against the Top 50 and the Top 100. Great

                    I love the whole strength schedule debate on here. Does it do anything to schedule tough and then lose as much as we do??

                    Is the tougher non-con getting us ready for the MVC race??

                    We finish in the middle of the pack every year....what is the non-con scheduling doing for us???
                    So you are in favor of scheduling more like ISU (red).

                    Their Non-conf teams by RPI:
                    at 150
                    161
                    at 162
                    196
                    198
                    230
                    296
                    304
                    at 309
                    at 328
                    342

                    With a non-con schedule like that, maybe we'd go 9-2? Put that with our 8-8 conference record and we'd be 17-10 right now. Wow - would we be a LOCK for the NIT?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by MacabreMob View Post
                      So you are in favor of scheduling more like ISU (red).

                      Their Non-conf teams by RPI:
                      at 150
                      161
                      at 162
                      196
                      198
                      230
                      296
                      304
                      at 309
                      at 328
                      342

                      With a non-con schedule like that, maybe we'd go 9-2? Put that with our 8-8 conference record and we'd be 17-10 right now. Wow - would we be a LOCK for the NIT?
                      Look at what you just typed. Wouldn't you want to be 17-10 as compared to what we are now??

                      Also, I ask again....why schedule tough if it never gets you ready for conference?

                      We are always around .500 in conference. So the "tougher" scheduling is doing us no favors either.

                      But if you are asking if I would rather be 17-10...then my answer is YES
                      When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by BradleyJD View Post
                        But if you are asking if I would rather be 17-10...then my answer is YES
                        So our scheduling problems are answered.

                        Here's the plan:

                        3 Buy-Games at home every year to Chicago St, SEMO, and UMKC.
                        3 Home-n-Home series every year with SIU-e, UIC, and Loyola.
                        1 Bracket Buster.
                        1 Bracket Buster return game.
                        1 MVC-MWC Challenge game.
                        1 In-season Tourney which we host every year bringing in W Illinois, E Illinois, and N Illinois played in a Round-Robin giving us 3 home games against them.

                        Yes?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BradleyJD View Post
                          Look at what you just typed. Wouldn't you want to be 17-10 as compared to what we are now??

                          Also, I ask again....why schedule tough if it never gets you ready for conference?

                          We are always around .500 in conference. So the "tougher" scheduling is doing us no favors either.

                          But if you are asking if I would rather be 17-10...then my answer is YES
                          Wow. Dumb.

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                          • #14
                            Just answer me this.....

                            In the past 3 years, has this tough schedule helped get BU into the NCAA?

                            In the past 3 years, has this tough schedule helped BU get ready for conference?

                            No...so why not find a middle ground? No one wants 10 or so cupcakes. But, I think you might want to find games that are winnable AND beneficial.

                            If we had great talent every year, then I would certainly say we should load up the schedule. We don't have that.



                            Don't complain when someone says InSU is doing better with their injuries than we are with ours.
                            When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by BradleyJD View Post
                              Just answer me this.....

                              In the past 3 years, has this tough schedule helped get BU into the NCAA?

                              In the past 3 years, has this tough schedule helped BU get ready for conference?
                              Maybe the tough schedule was what allowed us to play at near a .500 level while dealing with significant injuries, and possibly helped us reach the finals of the two post season tourneys. That seems just as valid as your supposition that it does nothing. No one knows the effect, because no one knows what would have happened without it.

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