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  • #16
    Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
    He has been connected to the Chicago network of coaches/advisers for a long time.
    Even if he does qualify (which is why most schools have ignored him), Bradley would have to play a game in Chicago that they aren't likely to be able to play.
    Can you explain further what this means? I thought every year BU tried to play a game in or near Chicago to satisfy our alumni base up there. Just curious I've never heard this mentioned before.
    "How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal, and you have to be willing to work for it." - Jim Valvano

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    • #17
      I am not referring to Bradley playing one of their scheduled games in Chicago.
      I am referring to a "game" that colleges are expected to play with high school coaches and AAU coaches in Chicago if they want to recruit the top Chicago high school talent. I am sorry if there is confusion, but I think most people here know what I meant, since we have discussed this many times before. I am not going to go into specifics, but suffice to say that there is a reason some schools get the Chicago talent, and some schools never get any of it. It requires certain "connections", and there is a reason these coaches in Chicago seem to live at a much higher standard of living than can be explained by their high school salary.

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      • #18
        Gotcha I wasn't thinking outside the box. It's too bad people use these young talented kids who just want to play basketball as chips to get what they want.
        "How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal, and you have to be willing to work for it." - Jim Valvano

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
          None of those kids were recruited from Chicago. Thornton came from a prep school, Lewis from a juco. Johnson has played very little and didn't play at all against Bradley in the last game, Upshaw hasn't played at all. And Smith hasn't played yet either, nor has Trey Blue, who was also not recruited from Chicago, but via a prep school, and Fordham U. Threloff isn't from Chicago, but even if he was, he is still in high school and might not be much help next year when he does arrive.

          In other words, despite all this info, the question was-
          What Chicago kid has ISU gotten that's helped them even one iota in the last 5 years since Porter landed OE?

          And the answer is still- none.
          Da Coach are you serious? I really thought you of all people understood the recruiting process.

          So all of a sudden Tony Lewis isn't from Chicago? The relationship the ISU coaching staff has with Tony Lewis has NOTHING to do with CHICAGO? ISU didn't first start recruiting Tony Lewis when he played in the Chicago Public League?

          Come on.

          Let me throw this example out there. Bradley showed some interest in Paris Gulley when he was a high school player in Peoria. Gulley goes off to SE CC in West Burlington, Iowa. If Gulley ends up playing for Bradley after his JUCO days, he wasn't recuited out of Peoria, but instead he was recruited out of West Burlington, Iowa?

          That's just semantics plain and simple. Using your rationale I suppose Marcellus Sommerville wasn't a Peoria recruit for BU since he didn't go there directly from HS? I guess Curtis Stuckey wasn't a Peoria recruit either? I suggest maybe to avoid confusion you refer to Sommerville as hailing from Iowa City and Stuckey as born and raised in Des Moines.

          For the record I clarified that Johnson, Upshaw, Blue and Smith haven't made an impact yet but they are talented and on the way
          Dinma Odiakosa 6'8 255......The Nigerian Nightmare!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 37 points and 27 boards in 2 wins over Bradley. "Will Egolf is 6'9 and he had 4 rebounds. That's not good enough and he's not good enough"....Dick Versace 2/9/10

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          • #20
            Tony Lewis was not recruited out of Chicago, he came to ISU from a junior college. Period. I cannot find any reports that he had any D1 scholarship offers when he was in high school.
            Get back to me with any Chicago high school recruits ISU has gotten that have had any significant impact at all, since OE. If not, quit trying to obfuscate the issue or argue for the sake of arguing.

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