Mascot change for BU considered again

[SFP]

I have never seen the student body president at a game and I would guess he rarely has ever gone....correct me if I am wrong. Yet they all know what is best.

LOL - Start a campaign to impeach him because he is a fraud! What type of student body president rarely goes to games, even President Obama attends college games. Do you know anyone who write for the Scout?

Another idea if you may would be us the alumni on this board to challenge the student body through an ad on the Scout. Does anyone know how much a full page ad would cost?

[BradleyBrave]

Ole Miss has it right...best mascot idea ever!

http://www.ajc.com/sports/uga/is-it-a-trap-325708.html?referrer=search_buy

http://www.notatrap.org/

I now vote for Darth Vader to be BU's new mascot. We can get him a red suit, and he can bring ORDER to the MVC Galaxy!

[thefish7]

Ole Miss has it right...best mascot idea ever!

http://www.ajc.com/sports/uga/is-it-a-trap-325708.html?referrer=search_buy

http://www.notatrap.org/

I now vote for Darth Vader to be BU's new mascot. We can get him a red suit, and he can bring ORDER to the MVC Galaxy!

LOL!!! Awesome-- and I'm on board with Darth Vader! Though we'd also have to get Vroman's buy-in to play the Imperial March more than once every 4 seasons.

[jeffsu]

LOL - Start a campaign to impeach him because he is a fraud! What type of student body president rarely goes to games, even President Obama attends college games. Do you know anyone who write for the Scout?

Another idea if you may would be us the alumni on this board to challenge the student body through an ad on the Scout. Does anyone know how much a full page ad would cost?

If you're serious (and yes I'd $contribute...)

http://www.bradleyscout.com/index.php?option=com_contact&view=category&catid=10&Itemid=17

[Majik45]

Screw Darth Vader, let's go with Chewbacca.

[BradleyBrave]

Screw Darth Vader, let's go with Chewbacca.

Admiral Ackbar has gone viral.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/blog/dr_saturday/post/America-rallies-behind-Admiral-Ackbar-Ole-Miss-;_ylt=AhZQkMn_RZzBN5hJbpKN4Q45nYcB?urn=ncaaf,224109

[Dallas Brave]

I'm not sure what is so challenging about coming up with an appropriate mascot for Brave(s). OK, we can't use the variation of "Brave" that refers to a "North American Indian warror." Big Deal. I guess we can't wear black uniforms either. Take the etymology for the word Brave and you can come up with lots of possibilities. This is a university, right. Use your creativity students. The word brave existed long before Western Europeans started using it to describe North American Indian warriors. Just back up a bit in history and then you are even more traditional.

[Future Walk-On]

LOL - Start a campaign to impeach him because he is a fraud! What type of student body president rarely goes to games, even President Obama attends college games. Do you know anyone who write for the Scout?

Another idea if you may would be us the alumni on this board to challenge the student body through an ad on the Scout. Does anyone know how much a full page ad would cost?

I do know someone who writes for the scout!

Yeah call them out.

[SFP]

I do know someone who writes for the scout!

Yeah call them out.

Is there still a paper edition and if so what is the cost for a 1/2 a page ad? This could be fun if we write it up correctly. I'm not in the school of shaming people unless they are in public office.

[LG281]

Personally I feel that while we could come up with something that embodies the "brave" spirit...I just don't think it'll ever have the effect that we would hope it would.

Then we just have another bobcat gaffe on our hands.

What purpose would a mascot serve?

Something fun for the kids? A giant plush thing to take pictures with? Will it bring more students to the game?

This season has proven that the only thing that'll get the crowd out of their seats to yell is winning. Mascots are expensive (if done right) just the heads of those suits cost thousands of dollars.

Wouldn't that money be better spent on some promotions that'll actually put butts in the arena? Besides, from what I heard from my brother the commission to research the idea of having a mascot was dropped.

Bradley doesn't need a gimmick - it needs to continue to win.

[ChewaBrave]

Before anyone goes on targeting the Student President, it should be noted that from my observations, this is an act by the student government. A lot of these type of things are initiated by students in committees that are at least one officer removed from the president. The Committees are open to the public not just senate members, and essentially the committees work on what they feel is important or what they would like to accomplish (amongst some more standardized fare). Once something like this takes to the floor, it is then bought up in assembly and passed or failed. The student body president is more of a figure head for dealing with the administration, as opposed to any real legislative originator.

Lastly, I can also say during my stay in the Senate (several years ago) the initial "search for a new mascot" was brought up in committee due to students asking about it in dorm meetings, or referencing when speaking to their senators. it isn't necessarily outside the realm of possibility that this same situation has occurred in this instance.

[Bradleyguy10]

Just a question but why doesn't the student section do any cheers like the atlanta braves..you know with the tomahawk hand thing. Would that violate our mascot probation or something?

[real fan]

Just a question but why doesn't the student section do any cheers like the atlanta braves..you know with the tomahawk hand thing. Would that violate our mascot probation or something?

Yes it would, anything to do with an Indian reference is out and that is why the Chiefs club name was changed to the Braves club.
I am an Atlanta Braves fan so I wish the BU fans could do the Tomahawk chop like FSU also does but then FSU paid the Seminoles off to go along with them.

[ImAStowellMan]

Why are teams allowed to be the Patriots, Yankees, and even the Saints? Those all have to do with my culture and religion yet I have no problem what so ever, in fact it seems more as a tribute than anything. Yet because these Native American mascots are culture and religion of the minority they're considered politically incorrect. I'm not attempting to offend anybody, but it is just very frustrating when groups of people expect different treatment just because they are a minority. Perhaps others have a different opinion and I'd love to hear it. I remember when ESPN used to run a commerical for USA soccer with the team in Mexico and they had signs saying go home Yanks, yet here in America we use that as a team mascot because we take pride in it. Why can't these Native American cultures take pride in the fact that their were the founders of the American culture and these mascots are paying tribute to that culture not mocking it?

You hit this right on the head. I really think this started with people getting upset with the caricatures of their culture like SFP said in his response. But then, once they had gotten those changed, it only makes it easier to go after anything that even has a hint of racial context. This could be just as much of a case of attention-seeking as anything.

[ChewaBrave]

You kind of need to remember that for some Native Americans, what is there to be proud of? In some cases, the remaining tribes in the US live almost as separatists - in diminished numbers, in substantial poverty, under-represented, and isolated to land that may or may not be their actual homeland. I mean in our relatively short history with Native Americans, there isn't a lot of reason for them to be super pro-US.

That having been said, it doesn't represent the entirety of the Native American population, nor does it represent all Native American's relationship with the United States. But when people start suing, things heat up pretty quick, and that is what largely this whole mascot business is about.

Furthermore, this board brings up political correctness quite often (the threads are generally deleted when they heat up, which s fair), and while i agree that we often see stories about hyper-PC situations that are ridiculous, the Constitution of this country that we also reference form time to time, was designed to protect the minorities. So sure hyper-pc can get pretty silly, but at the end of the day, this is another one of those things that was written into the fabric of our country.

On a more personal note, my father and uncles were all Alumni of Notre Dame, and I always kind of wondered why no one ever brought up "The fighting Irish", with the something of a bar brawl mentality it could bring up.

**edit for typo