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  • Mascot change for BU considered again

    Looked around and couldn't find any recent topics on this (sorry if I missed one)...but it seems the student senate...in all their righteousness would like to try to change the mascot AGAIN.

    Link to the article at "the scout".

    I'll bet that the majority of the kids that sit on student senate couldn't find their way down to Carver if they tried.

    I'd like to think that our new AD is smart enough to realize that changing the nickname would be an awful move that would alienate tens of thousands of alumni.

    I guess its readily apparent how I feel. Thoughts.
    44
    We're the Braves. Quit trying to change it.
    68.18%
    30
    Its time...get rid of the Braves.
    4.55%
    2
    Keep Braves as the nickname but find something PC for a mascot.
    27.27%
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  • #2
    We aren't changing the nickname. I think there should be a poll asking what should be the mascot -

    1. Tommy Hawk (reprisal of mid-80's mascot that was a hawk with a Hawkins jersey; very PC and indigenous to the area)
    2. Captain Brave (recent phenomena that is going viral)
    3. Other

    Personally, I don't think anything else they could come up with would be better than Tommy Hawk or Captain Brave. Brad E. Lee is off-limits now, so the other two seem like the best choices.
    Onward and Upward!

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    • #3
      It doesn't look like the Braves name or logo would be changed, jut perhaps having a mascot added. But thats just how I was reading the article and could be wrong
      Return to Glory

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      • #4
        The headline tinted my view of the rest of the article. Since we don't have a costumed mascot, if you were just going to add a mascot then you wouldn't say "change", would you?

        I dunno.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by LG281 View Post
          The headline tinted my view of the rest of the article. Since we don't have a costumed mascot, if you were just going to add a mascot then you wouldn't say "change", would you?

          I dunno.
          The mascot doesn't have to be what our nickname is. I'll use Georgetown as the example - the bulldog has nothing to do with a 'Hoya'. It also doesn't have to be part of the logo either.

          As other posters have pointed out, if we start winning consistently, anything we choose will look good and make sense.
          Onward and Upward!

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          • #6
            I am not sure if anyone is serious about the "Tommy Hawk" thing, but BB said something about this option being "PC". If anything, it is way too politically incorrect.

            We can forget about the Tommy Hawk character- remember that Bradley has to stay as far as possible away from anything with Native American imagery or connotations. The Tommy Hawk character was chosen originally because it was a play on the Indian "tomahawk" weapon. If not for that connotation, what the heck does a hawk with a hatchet have to do with the Bradley Braves? Be assured that the NCAA politically correct word-police would be all over Bradley in a nonosecond if we adopted a macot with a derisive name like "Tommy Hawk".

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            • #7
              A mascot would be good and you need to think what it would look like on merchandise. I'm not sure how you would do a Capt. Brave on a hat but it could look good on a T. I still like the Gargoyle idea because there is a link to Bradley Hall and the image would be great on a baseball hat. We do not need to change the nickname. That should remain The Braves!
              "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                I am not sure if anyone is serious about the "Tommy Hawk" thing, but BB said something about this option being "PC". If anything, it is way too politically incorrect.

                We can forget about the Tommy Hawk character- remember that Bradley has to stay as far as possible away from anything with Native American imagery or connotations. The Tommy Hawk character was chosen originally because it was a play on the Indian "tomahawk" weapon. If not for that connotation, what the heck does a hawk with a hatchet have to do with the Bradley Braves? Be assured that the NCAA politically correct word-police would be all over Bradley in a nonosecond if we adopted a macot with a derisive name like "Tommy Hawk".
                DC is correct. It may take a little 'refining'. We may have to axe (pun intended) the tomahawk portion of it. I'd love to keep his name as Tommy though, if nothing else than as a tribute and link to the glory years. If we take away the hatchet, can they really say we're being politically incorrect? Can they really lay claim to the name 'Tommy'? Myles Brand is dead now, and I think some of his PC agenda is dead with him. Hawks are indigenous to the Illinois River valley that Peoria resides in. We named our mascot 'Tommy'. Deal with it.

                Captain Brave is as PC as it gets.

                Still wondering how William and Mary gets away with being 'The Tribe' and having the feather on their logo...
                Onward and Upward!

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                • #9
                  Well we could always combine the Braves part with the hawk mascot and call the mascot Bravehawk to get around the pc crowd in the NCAA. Although something tells me that the NCAA might find something wrong anyway.
                  Still like Captain Brave and Gargoyle.
                  Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

                  ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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                  • #10
                    Just market the team, school, and program better.

                    You cannot buy BU stuff anywhere it seems.
                    When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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                    • #11
                      Why are teams allowed to be the Patriots, Yankees, and even the Saints? Those all have to do with my culture and religion yet I have no problem what so ever, in fact it seems more as a tribute than anything. Yet because these Native American mascots are culture and religion of the minority they're considered politically incorrect. I'm not attempting to offend anybody, but it is just very frustrating when groups of people expect different treatment just because they are a minority. Perhaps others have a different opinion and I'd love to hear it. I remember when ESPN used to run a commerical for USA soccer with the team in Mexico and they had signs saying go home Yanks, yet here in America we use that as a team mascot because we take pride in it. Why can't these Native American cultures take pride in the fact that their were the founders of the American culture and these mascots are paying tribute to that culture not mocking it?
                      "How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal, and you have to be willing to work for it." - Jim Valvano

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                      • #12
                        DeltaBrave I agree with your sentiments but the Indian thing really started because of the caricatures that have become symbolic of the natives i.e. The Washington Redskins being a huge one.
                        "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
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                        • #13
                          If he's at the games this week, someone should ask Captain Brave what he thinks about the whole mascot issue.

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                          • #14
                            Also, ask him if he'd give up his full-time job to become the full-time BU mascot.

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                            • #15
                              I have never seen the student body president at a game and I would guess he rarely has ever gone....correct me if I am wrong. Yet they all know what is best.

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