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  • #31
    Originally posted by Braves4Life View Post
    I agree Mayhem.... Nice article! But I, too, HATE the "Depaul solution".

    Regarding BU's long term problems Beni I think a lot of it comes down to what BU is willing to pay to ensure that the basketball program is successful. Paying a coach $400,000 might seem like a lot to some but in the world of college basketball it is not (and I can only imagine how little we pay the assistants). I'd love to see us find a guy like Siena found in Fran McCaffery. I watched him build a quality team at UNC-Greensboro before Siena plucked him. It was rumored that UNCG was only able to pay him about $75,000/year; he now is rumored to be making close to $1 Million at Siena with a strong buy out clause. You get what you pay for.
    Fran McCafferty
    Scott Sutton
    Leon Rice
    Ray Giacoletti
    Scott Nagy
    Greg Gard
    Mark Montgomery
    Ron Jirsa
    Steve Robinson
    Joe Mihalich
    Steve Donahue
    Dennis Felton

    Just a sample of guys that are out there that BU could go after if they wanted to.
    Onward and Upward!

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    • #32
      Finally, someone actually responds to the question being asked..

      BB--if you had to pick 3 to bring in for an interview who would they be?

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      • #33
        I have been thinking about the "DePaul solution" and I think its the only way to go. Clear the air, let the players and fans know you are serious about winning. Its not fair to the fans to let it hang, believe me when we are getting beat by Drake next week the boo birds will be out in force if nothing is done. Make a "Depaul solution" statement, save the program from total collapse. It is going in the wrong direction and no one is happy.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by BUBrave28 View Post
          Finally, someone actually responds to the question being asked..

          BB--if you had to pick 3 to bring in for an interview who would they be?
          I am not sure. Probably McCafferty, Donahue, and Michalic. They're all head coaches right now. Sutton too. McCafferty and Michalic would probably cost the most. I am not sure if Rice, Gard, Robinson, or Montgomery have head coaching aspirations, but all certainly have the resumes to take over a Valley program.
          Onward and Upward!

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Braves4Life View Post
            No excuse!!!!!! I type with my right and left index finger and if I broke it I'd simply type with my middle finger
            I think you type now with your middle finger at the front of your thoughts...
            Don't putt until the cup stops movin'

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            • #36
              [QUOTE=Da Coach;161803]I can also speak as the administrator here, that I get many PMs from members who don't post, or emails from guests on this board and the overwhelming majority are not the angry, unhappy fans you think they are.


              And I get an equal number of emails from people not on the baord and talk to average fans on the street everyday and the OVERWHELMING majority ARE unhappy and upset....so thats a wash.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
                Fran McCafferty
                Scott Sutton
                Leon Rice
                Ray Giacoletti
                Scott Nagy
                Greg Gard
                Mark Montgomery
                Ron Jirsa
                Steve Robinson
                Joe Mihalich
                Steve Donahue
                Dennis Felton

                Just a sample of guys that are out there that BU could go after if they wanted to.

                Oustanding list BB!! These are all great choices but I'm confident McCaffery and Robinson would never come to BU. Donahue and Mihalich would be logical candidates due to their East Coast roots; I'm quite sure new AD Cross knows Donahue. I would not want them since I question their ability to recruit in the Midwest.

                My rankings of your great choices would be:

                1) Montgomery -- Hopefully, he got a taste of just great BU is when MSU visited a few years ago. One of the top assistants in the country. I'd love to have him!

                2) Sutton -- Consistent excellence at ORU could even make him a #1 choice. I'm thinking he'd want bigger than Bradley though.

                3) Giacolletti -- A natural choice due to his local roots. Love his mid-major pedigree at Gonzaga. I'd choose him over Rice strictly for recruiting reasons.

                4) Gard -- Another assistant to a great coach with a mid-major and Midwest background.

                5) Jirsa -- Probably learned a lot from Tubby through the years, but not a Midwest guy.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by electricmayhem View Post
                  I think you type now with your middle finger at the front of your thoughts...
                  Yes! Often I do

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Braves4Life View Post
                    Oustanding list BB!! These are all great choices but I'm confident McCaffery and Robinson would never come to BU. Donahue and Mihalich would be logical candidates due to their East Coast roots; I'm quite sure new AD Cross knows Donahue. I would not want them since I question their ability to recruit in the Midwest.

                    My rankings of your great choices would be:

                    1) Montgomery -- Hopefully, he got a taste of just great BU is when MSU visited a few years ago. One of the top assistants in the country. I'd love to have him!

                    2) Sutton -- Consistent excellence at ORU could even make him a #1 choice. I'm thinking he'd want bigger than Bradley though.

                    3) Giacolletti -- A natural choice due to his local roots. Love his mid-major pedigree at Gonzaga. I'd choose him over Rice strictly for recruiting reasons.

                    4) Gard -- Another assistant to a great coach with a mid-major and Midwest background.

                    5) Jirsa -- Probably learned a lot from Tubby through the years, but not a Midwest guy.
                    Great list but there are NO gaurantee's any would succeed. Even with that we have seen what we have now. You are what your record says you are.

                    Its up to the powers that be to decide...are they happy with what they see in front of them and continue down the same averag path or do they take a 'risk" heading in a new direction.

                    And when I talk average I'm SIMPLY talking W's and L's. I think Jim does a better then average OFF the court which counts for alot.

                    Its a tough call.

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                    • #40
                      This would be my list for after next year dogs. I like JL and prefer to keep him but if next year is not a top 3 or 4 year then.......

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                      • #41
                        I like the thought of Montgomery. Does anyone think Chris Collins is ready?

                        Some goof on my site said we should hire Bobby Knight! OUT!
                        Don't putt until the cup stops movin'

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Braves4Life View Post
                          This would be my list for after next year dogs. I like JL and prefer to keep him but if next year is not a top 3 or 4 year then.......
                          OK...but may I say its kinda sad to be hoping for top 3rd or 4th. NOT a shot at you but 4th place.....yikes.

                          Personally and for the record I don't call for anyone to be fired. I'll let those that know alot more about everything that is BU then me decide that.

                          Like I have any influence anyway.

                          I'll support whomever is behind the wheel but would understand IF a change were to be made after THIS year.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by electricmayhem View Post
                            I like the thought of Montgomery. Does anyone think Chris Collins is ready?

                            Some goof on my site said we should hire Bobby Knight! OUT!


                            CC would be a VERY interesting choice. No one knows IF he would be ready and what about that ole "dad went to ISU" bit.

                            I would think it would bring alot of attention to BU AND that he could recruit quite well.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by BUFAN View Post
                              I've heard about all the wait until next year I can take. It aint gonna get any better, its as good as its gonna get. Its hard for me to understand how many loosers there are on this board, people who accept loosing without wanting to put up a fight and get it taken care of. I will not accept it under any circumstance. Its just not part of my program. We need a major change and I have a feeling JG is on board.
                              BUFAN I take no offense at your "looser" statement so please do not take offense at my calling you out and others who only see W-L as a measure of our program as what I believe is what is hurting our country. The number one priority of a University is not the athletic department but are we turning out great citizens after graduation. Basketball is a tool to be able to raise revenue and create a brand in which helps us recruit a greater number of students. IF you came across with statistics on how this BU overall has done in the other 2 departments besides W-L then I'd take your "loosers" statement as the Gospel. BTW it's losers not "loosers".

                              Originally posted by jasonpeoria911 View Post
                              I'm giving Les another yr to produce a top 3 finish but if the offseason happens like I think it will then I think Glasser and company will have no choice but to fire Les. It's gonna get nasty out there.

                              Jason
                              I'd have to agree that there will be pressure on JL but I'd have to think they will give him another year. JG will do what is in the best interest of the University and number one is the ability to raise our endowment which allows us to recruit and retain top notch professors, second is the ability to recruit the best HS students we can. She knows that a well ran top notch basketball program gives her the ability to achieve her goals more easily.

                              Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                              afan, this is not true- if anything, what's proven is that the majority of people who are not unhappy with a situation are usually silent. It is much more likely that if someone is displeased, he will voice that displeasure.

                              I can also speak as the administrator here, that I get many PMs from members who don't post, or emails from guests on this board and the overwhelming majority are not the angry, unhappy fans you think they are. They generally condemn all the negativity here, and ask us to keep things more positive.
                              Nobody likes losing, and before the negative posters try to spin my words and suggest I am saying that these fans are happy to support mediocrity, that's not at all the case. But there are a lot more fans who will continue their support of Bradley that you think. And as long as there is solid support of the current coach, don't expect to see a change.
                              I agree with coach here. There are tons of alumni who give money to the school where the basketball program is not a reason they donate. They like to hear that the program is doing great but trust me they do not follow the team like the bunch on this site. I know quite a few of them and btw..they are the ones that are probably the most successful professionally speaking.
                              "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
                              ??” Thomas Jefferson
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by electricmayhem View Post
                                I'm certainly not comparing the track record of the two schools...

                                Do you think that DePaul let Wainwright go for something other than the W/L record?
                                For my 2000th post, I will offer you this:

                                Yes, I do think DePaul let Wainwright go because of his W/L record, but they used his leg injury as an excuse to do it now rather than the end of the season. Also seeing as DePaul has very little upside potential with what they have now, it really did not make a difference when they let him go.

                                As others have stated, Bradley has most of their team coming back next year, and firing a coach in midseason would not be a smart thing to do unless they have a big time coach waiting in the wings. As has been said though, no one knows of anyone out there who could do better than Les.

                                And I'll go eve one step further by saying that we could have had Coach K coaching this team yesterday and we still would have lost by double digits!

                                Actually, come to think of it, so did Coach K yesterday against Georgetown!

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