Fishy Voting in the "Rate Jim Les II poll...

[Da Coach]

Funny- I hope it was just a prank. Again, the only reason I can see that someone would post 15 new votes in the "A" category all at once is to try to be obvious and get noticed and make a mockery of the poll.*
Again I apologize and we'll try to find and correct the problem that allowed this to happen.

*especially after it happened to the poll last night and it was caught.

[That Guy]

Something is rotten in Denmark...

[BradleyJD]

Oh well....I guess we must assume that everyone is happy and BU is destined to be .500.

[BradleyBrave]

Oh well....I guess we must assume that everyone is happy and BU is destined to be .500.

Everything is fine, the kids are great, Jim's doing a great job!

[Out of Balance]

[QUOTE=JMM28;157667[B]]I do, I'll help track it down. Give me access to the IP visits and I will tell you exactly who it was.[/[/B]QUOTE]

I bet thats not going to happen But nice try friend Very disappointed that it has come to this

[Out of Balance]

TAS- I am sorry it looks that way. Someone is trying to make it appear as if we are doing this, but I assure you none of the people with moderating priviledges here are doing this.
Why would anyone connected with this site do this, especially a second time, when it would be obvious to everyone?
It is especially obvious when the hacker puts up 15 "A" votes at once!
It appears to me to be the work of a hacker, who is trying to make a mockery of the poll. If he was trying to simply alter the poll's result, I have to think he wouldn't be so obvious.
I have contacted a software tech to help us try to find the cause of the problem, because it obviously affects the security of this board.

If you find out who, I totally aspect you to come forward with the name So we can have a hanging

[Dallas Brave]

This board needed some comic relief and we finally got some.

[That Guy]

Things are becoming more and more of a joke, I agree.

[Da Coach]

I think the following means we could have been hacked.
This comes from a service tech at vBulletin- the software we use for this board:
re: vBulletin version 3.8.* (which is the version used by this board)-
An exploit in our input validation has recently been discovered. This could allow a brute force attack to comprise and spoof input data for a given user. To resolve this issue, it is necessary to release a patch level version of the active versions of vBulletin.
The upgrade process is the same as previous patch level releases - simply download the patch from the Members Area, extract the files and upload to your webserver, overwriting the existing files. There is no upgrade script required.
As with all security-based releases, we recommend that all customers upgrade as soon as possible in order to prevent any potential damage resulting from the flaw being exploited.

Does anyone know what this means?

[Out of Balance]

I think the following means we could have been hacked.
This comes from a service tech at vBulletin- the software we use for this board:
re: vBulletin version 3.8.* (which is the version used by this board)-
An exploit in our input validation has recently been discovered. This could allow a brute force attack to comprise and spoof input data for a given user. To resolve this issue, it is necessary to release a patch level version of the active versions of vBulletin.
The upgrade process is the same as previous patch level releases - simply download the patch from the Members Area, extract the files and upload to your webserver, overwriting the existing files. There is no upgrade script required.
As with all security-based releases, we recommend that all customers upgrade as soon as possible in order to prevent any potential damage resulting from the flaw being exploited.

Does anyone know what this means?

BS, I think it's a inside job My question is, has ID's been reviled

[TheAsianSensation]

I think the following means we could have been hacked.
This comes from a service tech at vBulletin- the software we use for this board:
re: vBulletin version 3.8.* (which is the version used by this board)-
An exploit in our input validation has recently been discovered. This could allow a brute force attack to comprise and spoof input data for a given user. To resolve this issue, it is necessary to release a patch level version of the active versions of vBulletin.
The upgrade process is the same as previous patch level releases - simply download the patch from the Members Area, extract the files and upload to your webserver, overwriting the existing files. There is no upgrade script required.
As with all security-based releases, we recommend that all customers upgrade as soon as possible in order to prevent any potential damage resulting from the flaw being exploited.

Does anyone know what this means?

The really basic version of it is saying that someone is cracking the password of various accounts and logging into those accounts. It's feasible.

Look at the accounts that voted in the 2 voting threads, and look at the IP addressess the accounts with 0 posts were accessed from. If you find them matching or close to matching, you've found your culprit.

You should definitely check those accounts.

[Da Coach]

Thanks, that's what I thought it said.
The IP address of the accounts all show the same blank IP logged on yesterday and today. According to my tech consultant, it means the hacker is posting by using a proxy server and using software that hides the IP address. We are unlikely to be able to trace this any further, but we will be upgrading the software with a patch to prevent this vulnerability from being exploited again.

I doubt I will change the minds of those who suspect it was a moderator here, but I have verified that these events took place when no moderator was online. Also, none of our mods have the sophistication to do these things. This was clearly done by someone with computer expertise and knowledge of vBulletin software and it's flaws, and who wanted to punk us. Sounds to me like someone desperate for attention, and not someone working here.

And again I will use the logic that if someone here wanted to falsify the results of a silly poll, I doubt they would have done it in such a way to be so obvious, nor does it make sense that they would do it again the next day on the same poll when we would be on guard for it.
I can only apologize and take whatever steps are necessary to prevent it from happening again.
Here is more about this vBulletin problem-

http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?332633-vBulletin-4-0-0-PL1-3-8-4-PL2-and-3-7-6-PL2-Released&p=1881098#post1881098

[That Guy]

What's sad is the previous dealings with the way this board has conducted itself in regards to unnecessary censorship, and deleting of posts and posters by a select few in an effort to stifle opinions that don't agree with those of the people "in charge".

The very fact that many of the posters to this site all saw the results of the poll and came to the same conclusion on their own without even thinking twice says a lot about how we feel about this kind of treatment. The message board is supposed to be a place for healthy discourse, not the deletion/editing of posts that don't fall in line with the moderators. What good is a message board if one side of an argument gets quelled on a daily basis without merit?

Whether this was in inside job or not remains to be seen, but the fact that many of us came to the same conclusion says a lot. There has been a consistent history of this stuff happening. It needs to change. My voice and opinions should be just as valuable as those of EVERYONE else who chooses to participate on this board.

This is a Bradley message board, we all love the team and this program. We criticize because we care.

Please tell me I'm not alone on this.

[Buesch N Chips]

What's sad is the previous dealings with the way this board has conducted itself in regards to unnecessary censorship, and deleting of posts and posters by a select few in an effort to stifle opinions that don't agree with those of the people "in charge".

The very fact that many of the posters to this site all saw the results of the poll and came to the same conclusion on their own without even thinking twice says a lot about how we feel about this kind of treatment. The message board is supposed to be a place for healthy discourse, not the deletion/editing of posts that don't fall in line with the moderators. What good is a message board if one side of an argument gets quelled on a daily basis without merit?

Whether this was in inside job or not remains to be seen, but the fact that many of us came to the same conclusion says a lot. There has been a consistent history of this stuff happening. It needs to change. My voice and opinions should be just as valuable as those of EVERYONE else who chooses to participate on this board.

This is a Bradley message board, we all love the team and this program. We criticize because we care.

Please tell me I'm not alone on this.

You know, you don't have to come here if you hate it. The board is privately run. If you don't like the way it is being run, go somewhere else. You're never going to find a board that allows people to remain anonymous and also say whatever they want without some moderation. It's a recipe for disaster.

[Murph]

You know, you don't have to come here if you hate it. The board is privately run. If you don't like the way it is being run, go somewhere else. You're never going to find a board that allows people to remain anonymous and also say whatever they want without some moderation. It's a recipe for disaster.

That is correct, but then who would be left.