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  • #16
    Originally posted by BradleyJD View Post
    Early is on time....on time is late
    Lord knows I'm usually earlier than early for dinner.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by BradleyJD View Post
      You think that would stop them from losing 15 point leads

      It may not but it sure couldn't hurt.

      Players will feed off of a good, loud, supportive crowd. After the meltdown last night when ISU took a 5 pt. lead, the crowd actually started to rally and get behind the team. I think the crowd helped keep the Braves from folding altogether and made a difference in the outcome of that game.
      "Losers find an excuse...winners find a way" - Joe Stowell

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Chucky T's View Post
        It may not but it sure couldn't hurt.

        Players will feed off of a good, loud, supportive crowd. After the meltdown last night when ISU took a 5 pt. lead, the crowd actually started to rally and get behind the team. I think the crowd helped keep the Braves from folding altogether and made a difference in the outcome of that game.

        Yeah the crowd was quiet early...I saw this ONE couple on the BIG SCREEN.....ahhhh, nevermind, I'm sure they rallied during our comeback.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Chucky T's View Post
          It may not but it sure couldn't hurt.

          Players will feed off of a good, loud, supportive crowd. After the meltdown last night when ISU took a 5 pt. lead, the crowd actually started to rally and get behind the team. I think the crowd helped keep the Braves from folding altogether and made a difference in the outcome of that game.
          I agree completely! I thought the crowd, even though smaller, had its best game in terms of trying to rally the team. There were some boos at times, but there were also times where at the worst points people got up and cheered. That's what the team needs.

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          • #20
            I really never thought I would see the day the fans were blamed for poor play.

            Now I have.
            When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by BradleyJD View Post
              I really never thought I would see the day the fans were blamed for poor play.

              Now I have.
              Amen. I didn't see too many fans turning the ball over, missing free throws, and not playing defense over the last month.
              Onward and Upward!

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              • #22
                slow down game

                Originally posted by BradleyJD View Post
                It would change some, of course.

                The problem isn't talent with this group. It's something else. They are not a good closing team right now.
                Everyone has noticed that the team comes out the second half like a different team. What I have noticed the last few games is that they seem to play a slow down game when they come out with a small lead or if they are within reach. Is this the team coming out lethargic or is it a game plan by the coaching staff? The consistency is that it has happened every game for the last 3 or 4 games. Almost like it is a planned approach.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
                  Amen. I didn't see too many fans turning the ball over, missing free throws, and not playing defense over the last month.
                  I guess its my fault for not being a "true fan". Dang me for not yelling and cheering enough when we were up 10 or 15 points.

                  Come to think of it, the InSU run started when I was in the bathroom. I should never have left my seat.
                  When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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                  • #24
                    Interestingly enough the "What IF' game can work both ways....

                    What if the ISU player doesn't miraculously slip at the FT line last night on his way to the basket with 5 seconds left and he makes the shot or gets fouled and makes FT's for an ISU come from behind road win?

                    IMHO, what we would all like to see is some sort of progression from BU the rest of this season....better rebounding, better FT shooting, better execution on offense, better execution on defense, improvements in the skills of WE, AT, EM. A full 40 minute game every now and then would be nice as well.

                    I'm not going to 'hang my hat' on one or two wins in a row by BU.

                    BU finishing the MVC this year better than their recent past, say in the top 3, would go a long way for us Negative Nellies, Doubting Thomas's, Debbie Downers, 'Anti JL Agenda' Posters, 'Les Haters', 'Less Than Real' BU Fans, etc. to have some hope that JL is 'The Answer' (sorry AI) for BU MBB and that we can genuinely get excited about the program again and look optimistically at next year without being accused of being like "Cub Fans"
                    BUilding for the Future

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by afan View Post
                      Everyone has noticed that the team comes out the second half like a different team. What I have noticed the last few games is that they seem to play a slow down game when they come out with a small lead or if they are within reach. Is this the team coming out lethargic or is it a game plan by the coaching staff? The consistency is that it has happened every game for the last 3 or 4 games. Almost like it is a planned approach.
                      I feel the issue is that we are out-coached every halftime. They make adjustments, we don't.
                      Bradley Basketball... One Tradition; Underachievement. 2008-Current.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by BradleyJD View Post
                        I really never thought I would see the day the fans were blamed for poor play.

                        Now I have.
                        You can't blame the coach, can't criticize the players so it must be the fans causing the 2nd half collapse. Some people need to stop treating these guys like fourth graders at the Y. Maybe someone here can cut orange slices up for halftime and make sure the whole team, win or lose, gets a participation ribbon at the end of the game.

                        This is Division 1 major college basketball. These student/athletes are getting a full ride on the backs of this university and need to understand that they are expected to act a certain way. They have a responsibility to this school. If they feel slighted or offended by some fans, then maybe it's time to grow up.

                        We can send an 18 to 21 year old off to Iraq or Afghanistan to die for our country but, heaven forbid, someone boo a 18 to 21 year old basketball player that it hurts his feelings so he lashes out with a "tweet." Gimme a break. Time to put things in perspective gentlemen.

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                        • #27
                          My argument is not about booing at all. I really don't care about that one way or another.

                          I just think its odd that we blame fans for the losses.

                          I am pretty sure it's on the players and coaches......and maybe, occasionally, the officials
                          When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by BradleyJD View Post
                            I really never thought I would see the day the fans were blamed for poor play.

                            Now I have.
                            The fans are not making the mistakes. The fans are not the cause for the bad play. I totally agree with these points. All I'm saying is when BU is in the guts of the game and things are not going well, fans have a few choices.

                            1. Fans can sit and pout and do nothing = no help to the team

                            2. Fans can boo and moan and groan = a little help to the team. At least they show they care and are making some noise.

                            3. Fans can make some noise. Try to rally the team. Try to disrupt the visiting team. Try to create some resemblance of a home court advantage. Show that you haven't given up on the game or on them. I think this might help the team the most. I'm pretty sure it did last night.

                            I guess I chose #3.
                            "Losers find an excuse...winners find a way" - Joe Stowell

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Chucky T's View Post
                              The fans are not making the mistakes. The fans are not the cause for the bad play. I totally agree with these points. All I'm saying is when BU is in the guts of the game and things are not going well, fans have a few choices.

                              1. Fans can sit and pout and do nothing = no help to the team

                              2. Fans can boo and moan and groan = a little help to the team. At least they show they care and are making some noise.

                              3. Fans can make some noise. Try to rally the team. Try to disrupt the visiting team. Try to create some resemblance of a home court advantage. Show that you haven't given up on the game or on them. I think this might help the team the most. I'm pretty sure it did last night.

                              I guess I chose #3.
                              ...and I am good with that. However, how much do you think fans are going to cheer after watching 4 straight games where the team blows 10 or 15 point leads??

                              I know fans are important to how a team "feels" but I think there are limits as to what to expect out of fans.
                              When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Chucky T's View Post
                                The fans are not making the mistakes. The fans are not the cause for the bad play. I totally agree with these points. All I'm saying is when BU is in the guts of the game and things are not going well, fans have a few choices.

                                1. Fans can sit and pout and do nothing = no help to the team

                                2. Fans can boo and moan and groan = a little help to the team. At least they show they care and are making some noise.

                                3. Fans can make some noise. Try to rally the team. Try to disrupt the visiting team. Try to create some resemblance of a home court advantage. Show that you haven't given up on the game or on them. I think this might help the team the most. I'm pretty sure it did last night.

                                I guess I chose #3.
                                I have a number 4. When the other team calls a time out because the Braves are on a run and the crowd is into the game and rallying their team and the Braves are using their home court advantage, and I'll be blunt, TELL THE PA ANNOUNCER TO SHUT UP AND LET ME CHEER AND LET THE BAND PLAY.
                                What part of illegal don't you understand?

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