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    I see all these questions on JL...should he stay, go....

    Its pretty clear that he is ok with being 4th or 5th, and then talking about recruits.


    This really falls on the Brosk.....

    All the way back to the beginning...He hired a guy that was going to be a hero or a goat....

    JL has had six weeks of being a hero during a sweet 16 run, 1 good NIT team, and a bunch of junk.

    I have seen a lot of posts on the medicrity of the past 20 years..

    The mediocrity of Albeck included a NCAA birth and he was horrible, and had a 16 point lead in an NCAA game against Auburn. After recruiting no one, he was jettisoned 3 years too late

    Mo's mediocrity included multiple NIT births, an NCAA game where the team didn't perform well, and was one year removed from second place finishes in the league and the tournament.

    JL's mediocrity has been nothing but 4th and 5th place finishes...


    And back to Broski....The Brosk paid way too much money for a guy who had 6 weeks of success, and now the university is paying, and paying dearly for it.

  • #2
    Les is the best thing that has happened to Bradley in years.

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    • #3
      I can't agree with the money comment. BU got JL cheap compared with the going rate for a successful midmajor coach or a top assistant at BCS-type schools, and they still have him cheap. Even now he is in the middle tier of coaching salaries in the MVC.

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      • #4
        And that corresponds with his middle tier results

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        • #5
          I really like coach Les...but....

          Originally posted by bu fan 9 View Post
          Les is the best thing that has happened to Bradley in years.
          I guess that does not say much for Bradley. The thing is I really, really like JL. He says all the right things. However, after 8 years I objectively believe that the program should be seeing better results in the win column. Don't you???

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
            I can't agree with the money comment. BU got JL cheap compared with the going rate for a successful midmajor coach or a top assistant at BCS-type schools, and they still have him cheap. Even now he is in the middle tier of coaching salaries in the MVC.
            Number one------He makes 400k a year.

            Number two-------You are comparing him to SUCCESSFUL mid-major coaches.
            When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

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            • #7
              I honestly think JL may be placed firmly on the hot seat at the end of this season if things don't turn around quickly and drastically. However, I also think that would be bad because a similar coach would be much more money, I agree, and I still think JL has some serious potential. Right now my only thing against him is that he seems so stubborn almost. He's unwilling to change his ways or his team style even when it's not working. If he can learn to utilize players a little better according to the player's skills instead of using them to fit into this mold that he has for the team then he could be better. Right now though, he is dead set in his way of placing puzzle pieces into slots they don't quite fit in. He's been trying to put square pegs into round holes for the last couple of years and that is what really gets me....

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                BU got JL cheap compared with the going rate for a successful midmajor coach.


                2002??“2003 Bradley 12-18 8-10 T-5th

                2003??“2004 Bradley 15-16 7-11 T-6th

                2004??“2005 Bradley 13-15 6-12 8th

                2005??“2006 Bradley 22-11 11-7 T-5th NCAA Sweet 16

                2006??“2007 Bradley 22-13 10-8 4th NIT 2nd Round

                2007??“2008 Bradley 21-17 9-9 T-5th CBI Finals

                2008??“2009 Bradley 21-15 10-8 4th CIT Finals

                2009??“2010 Bradley 6-6 1-1 mid --

                Bradley: Conference 62-66 Total: 132-111

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                  I can't agree with the money comment. BU got JL cheap compared with the going rate for a successful midmajor coach or a top assistant at BCS-type schools, and they still have him cheap. Even now he is in the middle tier of coaching salaries in the MVC.
                  Da Coach..Im not sure if we disagree or not here..

                  First 8 years ago the money wasn't what it is now... But, my sources told me at the time that BU did try to underpay JL....

                  The issue I have was the long extension after the sweet 16.

                  You extend when you need to...No one was beating down the door for our coach. Why lock yourself in?

                  I think its safe to say, if JL didn't have money due him at the end of the year, he would be firmly planted on that hot seat.

                  Now, whether any of us agree with it or not is irrelevant..New Prez and New AD, with old coach with mediocre results = Hot Seat

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                  • #10
                    CB's best friend new chairman board of trustee's==not quite so hot of seat

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by srw View Post

                      You extend when you need to...No one was beating down the door for our coach. Why lock yourself in?

                      You are wrong about this srw. JL was a very hot commodity after the Sweet 16 run. He was rumored to be a top candidate at NC State as well as a few other schools. BU saw the potential downfall of losing a hot coach and did not want to risk this. By locking up Les for a relatively cheap $400K it assured BU of continuity in many ways -- fan support, financial support, recruits, etc....

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by srw View Post
                        Da Coach..Im not sure if we disagree or not here..

                        First 8 years ago the money wasn't what it is now... But, my sources told me at the time that BU did try to underpay JL....

                        The issue I have was the long extension after the sweet 16.

                        You extend when you need to...No one was beating down the door for our coach. Why lock yourself in?

                        I think its safe to say, if JL didn't have money due him at the end of the year, he would be firmly planted on that hot seat.

                        Now, whether any of us agree with it or not is irrelevant..New Prez and New AD, with old coach with mediocre results = Hot Seat
                        So the question I will throw out there on top of this is will the new Prez and new AD allocate the necessary money to get BU to a higher level? If BU wants to get to a higher level, will this administration look the other way at athletes with questionable academic qualifications for admissions? I watched the Florida State bowl game yesterday and the announcers were very apologetic toward the NCAA's investigation into FSU saying that every school does it! (sarcasm implied here with my last sentence)
                        Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

                        ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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                        • #13
                          We would of not got any of the new buildings built if it weren't for JL and that is a fact.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Braves4Life View Post
                            You are wrong about this srw. JL was a very hot commodity after the Sweet 16 run. He was rumored to be a top candidate at NC State as well as a few other schools. BU saw the potential downfall of losing a hot coach and did not want to risk this. By locking up Les for a relatively cheap $400K it assured BU of continuity in many ways -- fan support, financial support, recruits, etc....
                            Originally posted by bu fan 9 View Post
                            We would of not got any of the new buildings built if it weren't for JL and that is a fact.
                            We are on the same page here.
                            Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

                            ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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