Games of Interest, Tuesday 12/29

[Da Coach]

But the point is obvious- even though Bradley lost a couple games we wish they would have won, Bradley's RPI (121) is still much better than Illinois State's RPI (158 ) because of the huge difference in the quality of opponents.
Even though ISU has a pretty record (10-2), is one of the best MVC teams, and should exceed 20+ wins again, they will have trouble getting their RPI under 100 by the time the NCAA selection committee makes choices for at-large teams.
The terrible RPIs of many of the MVC teams this year won't help them improve their RPI during league play like it has in previous years when 7 or 8 of the MVC teams had RPIs under 100. Bradley has a better chance of getting an at-large bid than ISU this year.
This year, half the MVC teams have RPIs higher than 150.

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_mvc_Men.html

[TheAsianSensation]

I can't believe Wichita St is 300+. In fact, as the league as a whole, it didn't seem as bad as it actually is, schedule-wise. To have 3 teams in the bottom 15 is unforgivable. Terrible. No one let Indiana St off the hook either.

I'm going to have to analyze these further and bring justice to the perpetrators.

[Nacho]

I can't believe Wichita St is 300+. In fact, as the league as a whole, it didn't seem as bad as it actually is, schedule-wise. To have 3 teams in the bottom 15 is unforgivable. Terrible. No one let Indiana St off the hook either.

I'm going to have to analyze these further and bring justice to the perpetrators.

I find it hard to believe that 305 is accurate (I know it is accurate per their site, but it seems off)... they have played 3 teams with an RPI of 304, 319, and 325. But they have also played Pitt and TTU with an RPI of 29 and 34... Then there are 3 teams in the 100's and 3 teams in the 200's... I dont see how the comes out to an SOS of 305... I know there is more that goes into it, but something seems off...

[SaintLouBrave22]

Pacific @ Oklahoma State (-11), 7:05pm CST

Wofford (-1.5) vs. Kent State, 10:00pm CST

Who won these two games?

[Da Coach]

Who won these two games?

Kent State won the late game at the Cable Car Classic-
Wofford 66
Kent St. 73

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/boxscore?gid=200912290291

And Oklahoma State easily beat Pacific at home. They lead 40-16 at halftime.-
Pacific 50
OK State 66

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/boxscore?gid=200912290446

[cpacmel]

ISU's RPI is 116 and Bradley's RPI at 105. http://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2010/rpi

[shaunguth]

ISU's RPI is 116 and Bradley's RPI at 105. http://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2010/rpi

Awesome.....that should be good enough to get you into the NCAA tournament this year.

[tornado]

Jake Kelly had 3 points, 2 assists, 0 rebounds ..

Indiana State's Jake Kelly suffered a serious knee injury in the 2nd half last night, described in one report as a medial collateral ligament injury.
These types of injuries are generally treated without surgery, and require rest, time, and therapy...probably keeping Kelly out 2-4 weeks, and at least 4-6 games.

Some of the talk on the Indiana State board is that they should just call an end to Jake's season now and pursue a medical redshirt...

BUT---- again, quite a misunderstanding of the NCAA rules...Jake is NOT eligible for a medical redshirt, as he has already played 12 games.....
that's 40% of Indiana State's scheduled games this seaosn, and unfortunately for Jake, any consideration of a redshirt this year is quite an impossibility!

[cpacmel]

Awesome.....that should be good enough to get you into the NCAA tournament this year.

You guys too.

[shaunguth]

Those numbers from the Warren Nolan site are way off from every other site that tracks RPI.

It also doesn't have much of anything to do with the "Games of Interest, Tuesday 12/29".

[TheAsianSensation]

I find it hard to believe that 305 is accurate (I know it is accurate per their site, but it seems off)... they have played 3 teams with an RPI of 304, 319, and 325. But they have also played Pitt and TTU with an RPI of 29 and 34... Then there are 3 teams in the 100's and 3 teams in the 200's... I dont see how the comes out to an SOS of 305... I know there is more that goes into it, but something seems off...

Never mind, I figured it out.

There's 2 SWAC teams on that schedule.

Terrible.

[MacabreMob]

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_mvc_Men.html

http://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2010/rpi

I wish you guys would stop referencing those imposter rpi-sites. Jerry Palm's collegerpi.com site is the best one with the correct info.

[Da Coach]

I wish you guys would stop referencing those imposter rpi-sites. Jerry Palm's collegerpi.com site is the best one with the correct info.

What does Jerry Palm say ISU's RPI is?

[MacabreMob]

What does Jerry Palm say ISU's RPI is?

As of today (games played thru 12/29):

ISU
RPI 114
SOS 294

Bradley
RPI 106
SOS 68

[Nacho]

Jeff Sagarin has a highly respected formula for RPI that I think the NCAA Selection Committee actually uses.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/bkt0910.htm?loc=interstitialskip

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/bkc0910.htm

41 Northern Iowa
58 Missouri State
78 Wichita State
94 Illinois State
96 Southern Illinois
118 Bradley
126 Indiana State
161 Creighton
200 Evansville
242 Drake

I am pretty sure his formula involves future and played game- not just played games like other sites...