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  • #16
    Can someone explain to me how finishes of 4,5,4,5 the last four years is considered trending upward when we are essentially averaging a 5th place finish over the decade?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by squirrelgotdead View Post
      Can someone explain to me how finishes of 4,5,4,5 the last four years is considered trending upward ..
      I see no place except in your post, where anyone has ever used the terms "trending upward" or even "upward"...
      all I see is a discussion of your "matrices"

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
        Of course, every fan wants that. I am tired of some people suggesting that anyone, especially the great fans here, are satisfied with mediocrity. That has never been the case. But I, and most fans, don't see that the program is so bad, as some try to portray it, that we need to blow things up and start over again.
        I agree, and blowing things up now would be a bad thing even if people wanted that to happen. Les has his most talented group in four years and bringing in a new coach now would only lead to defection of at least half of these players and lead to four or so more years of REAL mediocrity, as in Evansville and Drake type of mediocrity! I don't think any Bradley fan would want to suffer through four or five years of 9th or 10th place finishes. At least finishing at or a bit above .500 shows we are really close, and we have a good shot of finishing even higher than 4th this year. I think next year will be the breakout year, but I know getting rid of the coach now would certainly not accomplish that.

        Nope, I say let's leave well enough alone!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
          Of course, every fan wants that. I am tired of some people suggesting that anyone, especially the great fans here, are satisfied with mediocrity. That has never been the case. But I, and most fans, don't see that the program is so bad, as some try to portray it, that we need to blow things up and start over again.

          I understand your point here...

          But JL is in year 8. How long do you give him?

          The issue is that IMO he has shown nothing to indicate a change.

          I mean, how many coaches in MBB fire their assistant in the middle of the year.

          I don't even care about the firing, but it just shows weak.

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          • #20
            I'd like to see us go after a true big! Maybe a few of them. Until we get a nice guy at the 5 we'll probably continue to be t=in the middle of the pack unless we get lucky a recruit another AP or HH. Do not tell me WE or even JP are real 5's. Last time we had a real 5 we went to the Sweet 16!!!
            "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
            ??” Thomas Jefferson
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            • #21
              Originally posted by SFP View Post
              I'd like to see us go after a true big! Maybe a few of them. Until we get a nice guy at the 5 we'll probably continue to be t=in the middle of the pack unless we get lucky a recruit another AP or HH. Do not tell me WE or even JP are real 5's. Last time we had a real 5 we went to the Sweet 16!!!

              I agree...if it were only THAT easy though. JL goes after 5"s. The "best" one hasn't shown alot yet allthough there is still time. (Sticks).

              BU also went after J.Threloff and I'm sure there are others.

              I agree...WE and JP are not your true 5's.

              I still would like to see JL throw AT to the Wolves with WE at the 4.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by dogsrus View Post
                I agree...if it were only THAT easy though. JL goes after 5"s. The "best" one hasn't shown alot yet allthough there is still time. (Sticks).

                BU also went after J.Threloff and I'm sure there are others.

                I agree...WE and JP are not your true 5's.

                I still would like to see JL throw AT to the Wolves with WE at the 4.
                Well he opened up competition at ALL positions since the last loss & the start of 2 a days - maybe you'll get your wish - time to shake something up.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by SFP View Post
                  I'd like to see us go after a true big!
                  just e mail me the names of the 5-Star 7-footers you know want to come to BU

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by tornado View Post
                    just e mail me the names of the 5-Star 7-footers you know want to come to BU
                    I never said 5 star just a true 5 that has a little beef! If I remember correctly there were a few true 5's that beat us pretty badly last year and none were even 3 star recruits. Just give me the 5 from either Oakland or ODU, I'd have been happy with that big guy (fat) from UW-M! He pulled down a few key rebounds and shots on us. AT is a project and was not expected to really contribute right away and WE looks like a 4, plays like a 4 so I'd believe he'd be better off playing the 4.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by SFP View Post
                      I never said 5 star just a true 5 that has a little beef! If I remember correctly there were a few true 5's that beat us pretty badly last year and none were even 3 star recruits. Just give me the 5 from either Oakland or ODU, I'd have been happy with that big guy (fat) from UW-M! He pulled down a few key rebounds and shots on us. AT is a project and was not expected to really contribute right away and WE looks like a 4, plays like a 4 so I'd believe he'd be better off playing the 4.
                      I am in agreement with you SFP Does not have to be a 5 star but a player that will go after it, play like he owns the middle, is not a softy and will put a body on someone Other mid major's get those type's or make that type of players But you know theres not a spot for such a player in JL's guard game A player would have to be content with setting screens for the bombers, and not having/getting the ball
                      Your right about WE being a 4 and not a 5 This would be one move JL still could do to salvage the season As for AT, some projects never get completed

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by SFP View Post
                        I never said 5 star just a true 5 that has a little beef! If I remember correctly there were a few true 5's that beat us pretty badly last year and none were even 3 star recruits. Just give me the 5 from either Oakland or ODU, I'd have been happy with that big guy (fat) from UW-M! He pulled down a few key rebounds and shots on us. AT is a project and was not expected to really contribute right away and WE looks like a 4, plays like a 4 so I'd believe he'd be better off playing the 4.

                        Yeah those guys looked good but they were playing US......

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by dogsrus View Post
                          Yeah those guys looked good but they were playing US......
                          LOL, At least they were better then ours!
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