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    Given the wide range of opinions about the success of Bradley??™s basketball program under JL, I thought it would be interesting to gather people??™s opinions on how to objectively build a JL report card. One of the challenges of sharing opinions on the board is that fans have different perspectives on what metrics are most important and, given that we are all victim to human foible, we are subject to emotional highs and lows based on how the team has done in the most recent game or the last recruit to be signed.

    My coaching scorecard would include two lag indicators: 1. regular season results and 2. post-season results and two lead indicators: 3. recruiting and 4. player development.

    In general, I think the points earned curve should be generally S-shaped and award/penalize lots of points when results are really good/bad. Zero points should be earned for results that fall into the ???minimum expected results??? range.

    1. REGULAR SEASON RESULTS

    1.1 Winning percentage
    12 points: .750 and above
    6 points: .650 - .749
    2 points: .600 - .649
    0 points: .500 - .599
    -4 points: .400 - .499
    -12 points: below .400

    1.2 Good Wins / Bad Losses
    1 point: win against BCS team
    +1 extra point for victory against BCS team that finishes in top half of their conference
    -1 point: home court loss to non-BCS team (non-conference teams)
    -1 point: home court loss to MVC teams outside of top 3 in league standings

    1.3 Conference Results
    12 points: MVC regular season champions
    8 points: MVC second place
    4 points: MVC 3rd place
    0 points: MVC 4th or 5th place
    -6 points: MVC 6th ??“ 8th place
    -12 points: MVC 9th or 10th place

    2. POST-SEASON RESULTS

    2.1 NCAA
    12 Points: NCAA tournament appearance
    +12 extra points for each NCAA tournament victory
    +1,000 extra points for NCAA championship

    2.2 NIT
    4 Points: NIT appearance
    +2 extra points for each NIT victory
    +12 extra points: NIT championship

    2.3 Other
    2 Points: other Post-Season championship

    3. RECRUITING

    2 Points: for each 4 year recruit
    +1 extra point: for each recruit 6??™ 10??? or taller

    4. PLAYER DEVELOPMENT

    4.1 Non-medical R/S
    2 points: for each non-medical, freshman R/S

    4.2 Graduation
    4 points: for each player who graduates (current year only)

    4.3 Professional career
    12 points: for each player drafted by NBA (one-time award)
    6 points: for each player playing in NBA
    1 point: for each player playing professionally outside of NBA

  • #2
    He was hired to do better than his predecessor. I think the jury is still out. I hope he succeeds.

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    • #3
      Frontcourt - D-

      He has yet to fully build a player himself. POB was a decent talent, but I honestly don't believe he hit his stride until the 2 tournament games that he parlayed a contract out of.

      Backcourt - B

      Would get a better grade because of some of the talent he has had, but the fact that he was a PG and for some reason can not make the points any better is very bothering.


      Offense - C+

      At times good, at times bad so just an average score.


      Defense - D+

      The same bad sets over and over again for the 8th straight season. Haven't seen a real good effort since Ruffin, Bennett, POB

      Bench - D-

      He doesn't know how to utilize a proper bench or make proper substitutions.



      Is this what you were looking for? I based it on the Dave Reynolds report card.

      No overall grade as its too hard for me to gauge what aspect is more important than another.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View Post
        Is this what you were looking for? I based it on the Dave Reynolds report card.

        No overall grade as its too hard for me to gauge what aspect is more important than another.
        I'm just looking for ideas on how to measure a programs success based on quantifiable measurements. I think Dave's scorecard is geared more for reader entertainment than being suitable to assess a program's development year-over-year because it is too subjective.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Dallas Brave View Post
          I'm just looking for ideas on how to measure a programs success based on quantifiable measurements. I think Dave's scorecard is geared more for reader entertainment than being suitable to assess a program's development year-over-year because it is too subjective.
          Quite honestly, I think most people just use winning percentage. Injuries have killed Les, just flat out killed him, which is why I believe he gets a pass from some people. Would his winning pct be better with no injuries? Impossible to know. But I think you should calculate using your criteria, and see what happens.

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          • #6
            One questionable objective is the RS one. I believe that being able to RS a Freshmen is not a negative thing. Later on if the program is able to recruit 4-5 Star players then it changes.
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            • #7
              I would say B- to a C+ I thought this team would win 16 games with no one getting hurt and now that we have 2 players down I would say 13 wins.We have know big men at all the ones we do have are so soft it makes me sick. And nothing even close to having a point guard and without point guard you aren't going to win many games.I really think our recruiting has went down hill the last couple of years.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bu fan 9 View Post
                I would say B- to a C+ I thought this team would win 16 games with no one getting hurt and now that we have 2 players down I would say 13 wins.We have know big men at all the ones we do have are so soft it makes me sick. And nothing even close to having a point guard and without point guard you aren't going to win many games.I really think our recruiting has went down hill the last couple of years.
                I'm more concerned with a) the system we run and how it hasn't changed, no matter who we recruit; b) the coaching staff and how none seem to be allowed free will and just are "yes sir" guys; and c) the fact that the program has yet to reach the upper 3 in the conference or win a tournament in the 7+ years Les has been here.


                This tenure has been nothing short of average when you consider what the other Valley schools have done:

                Creighton - 1 rs title ; 4 tournament titles
                Drake - 1 rs title ; 1 tournament title
                UNI - 1 rs title ; 2 tournament titles
                SIU - 5 rs titles ; 1 tournament title
                Wichita St - 1 rs title

                So Bradley is sitting with Evansville, ISU, Indiana St., and Missouri State with no titles or tournament titles since Les took over.


                Only Bradley, Evansville, and Indiana State have not finished Top 3 since Les became Bradley head coach.


                Do you really want to be grouped in with those two schools?

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                • #9
                  I still think predomintally evaluation a coach on regular season and MVCt titles is like only evaluating a NASCAR crew chief on pole positions won. While pole positions are nice, leading the race at the end is the real goal. In basketball, NCAA wins are the real goal. Conference championships are a nice mid-race measuring stick, but not the real goal. JL met the real measure of success in 2006, and I will not hold it against him in evaluating 8 years that he did not also win the pole position.

                  That said, in our one bid league, we now need to be aware that the only way to get to the NCAA is the MVCt. Qualifiying for the race is essential.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ph View Post
                    I still think predomintally evaluation a coach on regular season and MVCt titles is like only evaluating a NASCAR crew chief on pole positions won. While pole positions are nice, leading the race at the end is the real goal. In basketball, NCAA wins are the real goal. Conference championships are a nice mid-race measuring stick, but not the real goal. JL met the real measure of success in 2006, and I will not hold it against him in evaluating 8 years that he did not also win the pole position.

                    That said, in our one bid league, we now need to be aware that the only way to get to the NCAA is the MVCt. Qualifiying for the race is essential.
                    I like this comparison! I would much rather have a Sweet 16 than a conference championship. I would like one of those too however. I think we will start getting them!

                    Maybe this year's team will bring both!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View Post
                      This tenure has been nothing short of average when you consider what the other Valley schools have done:

                      Creighton - 1 rs title ; 4 tournament titles
                      Drake - 1 rs title ; 1 tournament title
                      UNI - 1 rs title ; 2 tournament titles
                      SIU - 5 rs titles ; 1 tournament title
                      Wichita St - 1 rs title

                      So Bradley is sitting with Evansville, ISU, Indiana St., and Missouri State with no titles or tournament titles since Les took over.


                      Only Bradley, Evansville, and Indiana State have not finished Top 3 since Les became Bradley head coach.


                      Do you really want to be grouped in with those two schools?
                      How many of those schools have won multiple NCAA games in that time?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View Post
                        I'm more concerned with a) the system we run and how it hasn't changed, no matter who we recruit; b) the coaching staff and how none seem to be allowed free will and just are "yes sir" guys; and c) the fact that the program has yet to reach the upper 3 in the conference or win a tournament in the 7+ years Les has been here.


                        This tenure has been nothing short of average when you consider what the other Valley schools have done:

                        Creighton - 1 rs title ; 4 tournament titles
                        Drake - 1 rs title ; 1 tournament title
                        UNI - 1 rs title ; 2 tournament titles
                        SIU - 5 rs titles ; 1 tournament title
                        Wichita St - 1 rs title

                        So Bradley is sitting with Evansville, ISU, Indiana St., and Missouri State with no titles or tournament titles since Les took over.


                        Only Bradley, Evansville, and Indiana State have not finished Top 3 since Les became Bradley head coach.


                        Do you really want to be grouped in with those two schools?
                        More than one person on this board has stated that we're not supposed to care about what the other schools are doing. Maybe I misunderstood that and we're only supposed to take notice when they're doing well and can be compared favorably to Bradley. I guess that makes perfect sense when someone is trying to show how bad our basketball program is.
                        ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View Post
                          Only Bradley, Evansville, and Indiana State have not finished Top 3 since Les became Bradley head coach.

                          Do you really want to be grouped in with those two schools?
                          Ouch. That hurts to see it put in text like that.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View Post
                            So Bradley is sitting with Evansville, ISU, Indiana St., and Missouri State with no titles or tournament titles since Les took over.


                            Only Bradley, Evansville, and Indiana State have not finished Top 3 since Les became Bradley head coach.


                            Do you really want to be grouped in with those two schools?
                            That seems to say a lot. I bet the coaches at those schools have changed during those years... I think the job is Les' until he doesn't want it because he is the "golden boy" and too many rich alum with power will make sure he stays. Just an opinion.

                            Where is this "national prominence" he promised 8 years ago when he "wowed" the committee with his sales pitch? Never finishing in the top three in seven years (probably will be eight) and making it a habit to lose at home to teams like Loyola and Western Carolina is hardly getting BU to national prominence. Just look at the strides that Butler has made since Les took over. I always considered Butler a lower basketball school than Bradley, but they are light years ahead now.

                            I may be new here, but I have had tickets since the fieldhouse days in the 70's and I am getting pretty tired of the same old thing the last few years. Play lots of guards and be mediocre. Jump the passing lanes (and over-play on defense) and leave KNOWN 3 point shooters open (i.e. Western Carolina game and others). I've seen several coaches at BU and I give him a C-. I would give him an D- if I compared him to what he sold the committee versus what he has done. I pretty sick of this act.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                              How many of those schools have won multiple NCAA games in that time?
                              WSU? SIUC?

                              I think the difference is that some here are looking for more consistency from the team. More like a Creighton or (from those stats) an SIUC when they were good. Yes BU won those 2 games but you can't help but think games like that have a lot to do with luck and good fortune. Yes the talent was there definitely and they started to play together, but the real question should be, if they were really that talented, where was that the rest of the season? Where was the coaching staff on that one? Those 2 games were important but winning a regular season and a few tournament championships would show consistency...2 games in the NCAA over the course of 8 years does not show that.

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