To all that are jumping ship..........

[Bravesfan]

Just because some of us here question the direction of the program doesn't necessarily mean we are jumping ship. You need to watch that "trick" knee of yours. Just because some are not lock step with the Kool Aid drinkers does not make us less a fan, maybe it makes us more realistic and more desirous of better things for this program.

One question...is anyone currently ecstatic about the direction of the team this year?

I don't how many people are currently ecstatic about the direction of the team this year, but I do know there were several people on this board saying they were through with the team this year. Maybe it was mostly knee-jerk reactions from the game, but I know what read here last night at this time!

I also think while people are free to gripe about Les as a coach, anyone who implied he should have been fired on the spot after the game last night are for all intents and purposes jumping ship. Ripping on the team to no end does not help this team improve. Neither do "fans" who leave before the game is decided! Shame on these people who left early last night according to several reports! These people are not real fans. Either they were psychic knowing that we would lose in the last second on a fluky play, or they were just there to be seen!

That reminds me of Cubs "fans" who do the same thing. Most Cubs fans like myself are very knowledgable about the game and are very much into the game, but there is a large segment of "pretenders" there just to drink and be seen.

Let's hope some Bradley fans aren't falling into this habit too!

[brocks]

This argument reminds me of Cubs' fans that throw things onto the field and boo their own team. I honestly feel if you're not happy with the product, then don't waste the effort. That doesn't mean everyone that shows up is "happy", but hopefully they are there to support their team in a positive way. If you continue spending your money on a product you are not happy with and don't enjoy, then stop.

Staggering in its lack of reason. So now anyone who isn't happy will boo his own team and throw things on the court? Now anyone who isn't happy won't support the team in a positive way? You must be part of the crowd who claimed that anyone who thought George Bush was a mindless clod "didn't support the troops." What complete nonsense.

And by the way, REAL fans aren't fans because they're HAPPY. They're fans because they CARE.

[Chico]

IMHO, JL's best coaching jobs were the year after the Sweet 16 run and last year. Currently nobody including JL is happy with the performance from last night. A friend of mine asked me the other day what to expect from this year's BU team.. (beore the Loyola game) I honestly told him that this team does not play at a very mature level and that this team will win some games that they are not supposed to win and lose some games in the same manner. I also stated that he should not worry as this year's freshman class is one of the finest incoming classes that I have seen come to BU in years. So if a person wants to think in the short term, than go ahead and fire away. I have been critical of substitution patterns this year, however, I am very optimistic about the long term direction of this program. If some fans care to remember, there was a group who wanted Versace gone in the 1980's before the years when BU had a run with Hawkins etc... Now history has glossed over the Versace years and people tend to forget that there was a faction that wanted to run Dick v out of town. Relax people!

The only ones who wanted Dick V. gone were the backers of the previous coach. Dick's only bad year, record wise, was his first year.

[Chico]

I don't how many people are currently ecstatic about the direction of the team this year, but I do know there were several people on this board saying they were through with the team this year. Maybe it was mostly knee-jerk reactions from the game, but I know what read here last night at this time!

I also think while people are free to gripe about Les as a coach, anyone who implied he should have been fired on the spot after the game last night are for all intents and purposes jumping ship. Ripping on the team to no end does not help this team improve. Neither do "fans" who leave before the game is decided! Shame on these people who left early last night according to several reports! These people are not real fans. Either they were psychic knowing that we would lose in the last second on a fluky play, or they were just there to be seen!

That reminds me of Cubs "fans" who do the same thing. Most Cubs fans like myself are very knowledgable about the game and are very much into the game, but there is a large segment of "pretenders" there just to drink and be seen.

Let's hope some Bradley fans aren't falling into this habit too!

IMO, the fans who left early were leaving because they thought the game was won, or should have been won. Don't think too many were expecting a half court winner.

[Bradleyguy10]

Just don't come to the next game! That way I will have the best seats in the house. Hell, don't come at all for the rest of the year. Donate your tickets to charity, that will show Dr. Cross that you guys mean business alright! I guess I was just as upset last night after the game, but we are 5-4, lost twice at home, but it's a long season, and we BEAT ILLINOIS! This team is a TOP 3 Valley team and will finish in the TOP 3. I don't understand how people are talking right now about a 7th or 8th place finish. Right now we are the 1st place team in the Valley, and will be until a VALLEY team beats us! Thanks in advance for the GREAT SEATS at the next game! GO BU!

I haven't read any other posts in this thread. I read yours and immediately needed to comment so I'm sorry if someone else already said this, but we are not the 1st place team in the valley right now until a valley team beat us...not by a long shot. Creighton and UNI are.

I am not upset or angry about the loss but right now we are not good and there is no way around it. I don't deny we can (and probably will) get better, but this team is getting dangerously close to "predictable". And not in a good way..

[MacabreMob]

The only ones who wanted Dick V. gone were the backers of the previous coach....

As history repeats itself... it seems many who want Les gone were backers of Mo.

[Bravesfan]

IMO, the fans who left early were leaving because they thought the game was won, or should have been won. Don't think too many were expecting a half court winner.

Well I hope that was the case. However there were posters here who said some were leaving just before the end of the game, which was really perplexing in my opinion.

[unbekannt]

Shame on these people who left early last night according to several reports! These people are not real fans. Either they were psychic knowing that we would lose in the last second on a fluky play, or they were just there to be seen!

I always go to Carver Arena to be seen, but I'm four popped-collars cool.

http://www.kublermdk.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/4popped-collars.png

[MacabreMob]

I always go to Carver Arena to be seen, but I'm four popped-collars cool.

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LOL! That's funny.

[tornado]

Hey - I went to a movie..."Mamma Mia"...or something like that...
it was the worst movie I have ever seen...terrible, not worth the money..

but I am going to go and watch again another dozen times....and probably even buy season tickets to the same movie so that I can feel bad every time I see it and think up a few more complaints about it...

[SaintLouBrave22]

This team is a TOP 3 Valley team and will finish in the TOP 3.

Would you like to place a wager on that?

[SaintLouBrave22]

As history repeats itself... it seems many who want Les gone were backers of Mo.

Ok, let me set the record straight there...

I for one couldn't stand Mo...


I like Les as an individual, but he just isn't taking the program where it should be headed at this point...


After 7 years, we should've had at least 1 championship given our current talent...


He has brought in much more talent than Mo, but with less overall results.


Yes, we may have beaten Illinois, and most will use that as a crutch all year, but not I. I expect more from this talented group and we're just not getting it.


Into Year 8, you have to start wondering after different groups of players if they aren't the problem, but the staff is.

[Braves4Life]

Would you like to place a wager on that?

Sadly, I probably would. But if I did we'd be guaranteed to finish lower....... so I won't

[versace4pres]

There seems to be a misconception here that permeates these discussions regarding being a real fan or not. Kool Aid drinkers are "real fans". Fans who are not very happy with direction of this program are also "real fans." I'll go out on a limb here and say that we ALL want this program to win. We ALL want to us to return to the NCAA tourney in March. We ALL want to win our home games against the likes of Loyola.

Just because some "real fans" want more from and for the program does not necessarily make them less a fan than the "real fans" who currently see nothing wrong with where we are at. Don't we all wear the same colors here?

[Beninator]

The only ones who wanted Dick V. gone were the backers of the previous coach. Dick's only bad year, record wise, was his first year.

As history repeats itself... it seems many who want Les gone were backers of Mo.

My points exactly!!! We need continuity for a program to survive and thrive. There are/were some people out there who want(ed) the coach fired in both instances because of their personal agendas with little thought about what is best for Bradley. Don't get me wrong, there are times when replacing a coach is good for the program and the school, but IMO we are not at that point at the current time.

Chico, I think the people who were beating the drums for Versace being replaced were doing so after a mediocre year or two after the NIT championship. I was trying to do a search of our record in the 1980's but couldn't find anything in the limited time I had available. Irregardless, those people were clearly wrong at that time.

Also, I think the new AD should incorporate a history of Bradley Basketball records, stats, etc on their internet site. Just a suggestion that should merit low priority among the mix of tasks he will face when he gets here. jmho...