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  • #31
    Originally posted by BuAlum03 View Post
    If coach Les hadn't mentioned bringing JE off the redshirt, and then put him in a game, would it have been "deceiving" and "unethical"? I seem to recall multiple conversations about coaches lying when it comes to player availability, and JL being called out numerous times.

    See...good answer and all that I was looking for.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by BUfan14 View Post
      Haha in my academic career a 50% has never been higher than a F. The test is about 29 to 30some questions though not 10

      I was also just agreeing with DaCoach that people sometimes nitpick at the coaching staff for things that really have nothing to do with our record, like how something was said or announced or everything really...I'm not saying our record is good or unquestionable right now.

      But while we're on that I think I've stated something like this before; I'll wait until the whole test is graded before giving out a grade. I think any student would appreciate this cause they could've done good on the rest of the test and just bad on the first page Just because you have a 5/9 on the first page doesn't mean you will get that on the whole test nor should a teacher assume that's what you got and not grade the rest.

      True but this "test" is a 8 year one...not a one year mini quiz. I have it graded as a C and oure grades are sliping so far. ANY parent or teacher would notice this and take action....not sit back and wait until its to late at seasons end.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by dogsrus View Post
        True but this "test" is a 8 year one...not a one year mini quiz. I have it graded as a C and oure grades are sliping so far. ANY parent or teacher would notice this and take action....not sit back and wait until its to late at seasons end.
        And the teacher (JL) I'm sure is noticing and making adjustments or "taking action" with his players must like he did last year. No teacher (coach) is going to sit back and do nothing while his students (players) are struggling. So by year's ends we will see if the teacher (coach) did a good job with this year's students (players) or not, but we won't know until the final exam. So I'm sure concerns are noted, and I am positive JL is not sitting back doing nothing. I have confidence he will succeed.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by BUfan14 View Post
          Haha in my academic career a 50% has never been higher than a F. The test is about 29 to 30some questions though not 10
          In my sales career 50% win rate would be an exceptional win rate.

          Let's all face it if JL does not produce some tangible results by the end of next year all bets are off and the pressure will be there. Then again there is a new AD in town and the Board is giving the Prez some latitude that we have not seen before at BU!
          "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
          ??” Thomas Jefferson
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
            I suppose some could make that case, but I would disagree. I believe Coach Les, with all his years of experience playing and coaching basketball, is knowledgeable, qualified, and capable of evaluating talent, including big men. In fact, I would love to know what the qualifications are of those who gratuitously rip on him for every facet of his job.

            The example you gave of Sam Singh not progressing is hardly fair- could it have something to do with his 2 lost seasons due to injury, 2 major knee reconstructions which slow him down, and prevent him from jumping much, and a shoulder reconstruction, too?

            I could name other big men who did progress under Jim Les-
            Will Egolf, Taylor Brown, Theron Wilson, Matt Salley, Zach Andrews, Patrick O'Bryant, Marcellus Sommerville, Anthony Thompson and Milos Knezevic. I think we'll continue to see AT, Milos, and Jordan Prosser progress in the future.
            You're just further proving my point...all the bigs you list had capable experienced assistants to further their development...who does Les have now, some high school coach with zero exp?! As for my qualifications, I have none, that's why I'm not paid the hefty salary Jim is and why that automatically allows people to question and scrutinize those whose job it is to win and develop their players.

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            • #36
              So he gets no credit for any player that develops under him, because someone else must always have been responsible? But he gets all the blame for Sam Singh not reaching stardom, despite the fact Sam's injury problems were clearly the biggest reason.

              You just proved my point- that Jim Les can't win- his critics absolutely refuse to grant him the slightest credit for anything positive that's happened (2006 was all because of Chuck B, right?), but pick at everything they see that's negative and heap all the blame on him.
              I suppose you blame Jim Les for Dodie Dunson's injury?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                So he gets no credit for any player that develops under him, because someone else must have been responsible. But he gets all the blame for Sam Singh not reaching stardom, despite the fact Sam's injury problems were clearly the biggest reason.

                You just proved my point- that Jim Les can't win- his critics absolutely refuse to grant him the slightest credit for anything positive that's happened (2006 was all because of Chuck B, right?), but pick at everything they see that's negative and heap all the blame on him.
                I suppose you blame Jim Les for Dodie dunson's injury?
                He gets too much credit when things go well, and too much blame when things go poorly. Such is the nature of the job no matter where one is at. His record is what his record is, and it's pretty average.
                Onward and Upward!

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
                  He gets too much credit when things go well, and too much blame when things go poorly. Such is the nature of the job no matter where one is at. His record is what his record is, and it's pretty average.
                  As usual, BB you are right, and your asessment is fair, and I agree. But the constant criticism of minutia like which players he plays in which rotation, and what direction he looks at during timeouts, is ridiculous.
                  And his critics would have a bit of credibility if they at least granted him some credit for the positives the program has had.

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                  • #39
                    Does anyone know how Jordan is doing in practice? How does he compare to what we are putting on the floor, how is his strength developing, what's the story?

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                    • #40
                      I was wondering the same thing today when I was in Eureka, hopefully someone that has an inside source will know how Jordan has been doing in practice.

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                      • #41
                        He's developing. He still will benefit from the redshirt to get even stronger and tougher.

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