No PG + No Inside Game + Poor Coaching = Bad Results

[SaintLouBrave22]

The title of the thread is all that needs to be said. This group is talented enough to finish top 3 in this league this year and the next few years. However, because of the title of the thread, this group will be struggling to stay out of the play-in games this year and the next few years.

The question is where is the real problem?


I listened to post game last night and it seemed as though blame was being pushed off on the players...


The major problem I see with some of what was said though is that apparently our players lack intensity, motivation, and are just plain lazy...


My concern here is that most weren't like this until they started playing here and the fact that he can not get players motivated to play 40 minutes makes me believe that he just can not and will not get these guys up for anything other than the big Illinois type games.

Let down after let down, blown lead after blown lead, and sadly, I still haven't heard what needs to be said...

And that is we can expect some changes from the top down and that they'll start with him and his staff...


I just hate to harp on this, but the playing rotations are absolutely horrible, and I just will never understand why Taylor and Milos can not play together, yet we continue to play two PG's together that should be lucky at this point to get time on the floor alone.


If it were up to him, we'd have 5 guards on the floor at the same time...


Until he realizes that this game doesn't begin and end with only guards, I expect similiar results.


We should never lose to Loyola...that is an embarrassment to Bradley University and our fan base.


.500 overall and .500 in the conference just doesn't cut it anymore!

[BradleyBrave]

.500 overall and .500 in the conference just doesn't cut it anymore!

In 7 years under this regime we're under .500 in league play. That won't change this season.

[SaintLouBrave22]

And SS does?

Ok, so apparently I'm not allowed to say _____ didn't play well, but you know who I am talking about.

The key for Sam is that he does have a body and at times does know how to use it. While he was in, their big boy was kept out of the 3' area.

[SaintLouBrave22]

Does this forum have a way to ignore posts from certain posters?

These fantasies of "going big" have got to end.

Who said anything about going big?


Its called playing NORMAL ball buddy.



Do you see any other winning schools playing two players under 6' at the same time?


Do you see any other winning team playing 4 guards at the same time?


All I am asking is that we play 2 Forwards, 2 Guards, and a Center.


This does NOT include playing Warren, Maniscalco, and McCain at the same time. EVER!

[AE Braves Fan]

Does this forum have a way to ignore posts from certain posters?

These fantasies of "going big" have got to end.

Found it:
UserCP -> Settings and Options -> Edit Ignore List

There we go, much better.

[JMM28]

The question is where is the real problem?



We should never lose to Loyola...that is an embarrassment to Bradley University and our fan base.


.500 overall and .500 in the conference just doesn't cut it anymore!

This program should never lose at home, period.

Everyone here looked at this awful home non-con schedule and said "We should be undefeated at home going into conference." If you didn't, youre lying.

Any good done by the Illinois win has been undone 5 times over now.

I think Merf was a bit more important than many here thought.

[SaintLouBrave22]

This program should never lose at home, period.

Everyone here looked at this awful home non-con schedule and said "We should be undefeated at home going into conference." If you didn't, youre lying.

Any good done by the Illinois win has been undone 5 times over now.

I think Merf was a bit more important than many here thought.

I agree about both statements...not sure about the Merf one.


Sadly the previous coach couldn't win on the road, BUT he rarely ever lost at home.


When are we going to get coaches and players in here that understand its a privelege to play in front of 9k every night and that they should be leaving it all out on the floor and that losing at home is not an option and should never be tolerated!

[Buesch N Chips]

In 7 years under this regime we're under .500 in league play. That won't change this season.

Valley records....

Versace - .623
Albeck - .569
Molinari - .556
Les - .484

Not a good trend. Hopefully we will rebound from this disaster and have a good conference season.

[SaintLouBrave22]

Valley records....

Versace - .623
Albeck - .569
Molinari - .556
Les - .484

Not a good trend. Hopefully we will rebound from this disaster and have a good conference season.

Do you by chance have the ability to look at home records?

[Dubl R 1]

Does this forum have a way to ignore posts from certain posters?

These fantasies of "going big" have got to end.

You know, I have mixed feelings about going Big with this team. I know our bigs aren't gonna be monsters down there, but I feel like we could mix in WE and AT at the same time a bit more, actually I don't think we have ever tried it(may be mistaken on that, but can't recall it ever happening)

Anyway, for example, last night we begin the game with 3 WE jumpers early on in the game, all 15 foot or better. And it appeared to me, by the way he just caught it and shot it on all 3 of em, that he has been encouraged to shoot that shot (my opinion). Now I ask, if you already have 4 players in the game (3 guards, and 1 undersized 4)who are better at doing that than Will, why is that the shot we are lookin for? To me if you are gonna use Will that way, what's the harm in having Thompson in there planted in the post? Why not run a little hi-low, I mean Egolf is a prototypical hi man in that type of sense. If you are gonna have him shooting that shot with no rebounders down there, why not stick AT down there and still have him shoot it? And Im not talking about doing this for huge amounts of minutes, just mix it in a little bit, see if maybe it can't free Will up a little more for that foul line jumper, if they have to at least pay some mind to another possible post threat in AT. I just can't beleive we dont try it at all, I mean we don't even explore the possibility. Also, at 6'8", Milos could also be the Hi man with either AT or WE on the block, but we just don't seem to try this ever. I don't think WE is ever gonna be an offensive down on the block back to the bucket powerhouse, but that doesn't mean he can't be an effective big, just look at someone like Jack Ingram of Illinois a few years back.

I also feel the biggest reason BU cannot, will not go big is our "System" on offense will not allow it. We absolutely cannot have 2 of Will, AT, or SS in at the same time and run the type of motion offense we run. Now, this is up to the coaches to decide if they want to try and implement a new offensive scheme mid season, but we just can't throw the bigs into the current scheme and expect it to work. Too many moving parts and ballhandling opportunities to have 2 of those 3 in there at a time.

When BU went to this offensive scheme after the Sweet Sixteen season it was to utilize the strength of the team which was the guards, and it worked well, but you had guys like Ruff, Will Franklin, JC, A Warren (as a role Player) All of these guys could handle the ball, were better than average shooters, had a high basketball IQ, and above all they really were good passers who moved the ball crisply around that offense. This year, the strength of the team(in my opinion) is still the guards, but they are a different type of guard than the ones mentioned above. (especially with Dodie Out) I think that CR and AW and TB would all benefit more in a quick hitter type of offense, rather than the motion that we currently run. Get AW running off staggered screens, and CR and TB coming of curl screens at the foul line more where they can get to the bucket and use their athleticism/draw fouls. It just seems like we are not executing the motion offense well at all, and our best players (AW, TB, and CR) get lost in it.

IDK, just my rant and opinion after a couple of tough losses.

[Buesch N Chips]

Do you by chance have the ability to look at home records?

Here is what was posted elsewhere by someone else....

Through his first seven full seasons and the first five games of his eighth, Mo was 78-23 at home (.772). Les is 87-30 (.744). Mo wrapped up his career, 11 seasons, with a 117-36 home record (.765), and it's worth noting that seven of his losses came in his final season, which is significant in that Les has lost more home games one-third of the way through his eighth season than Mo lost in 10 full. Two road games into their eighth seasons: Mo was 33-57 (.367), and Les is 30-66 (.313). Mo took a real dive on that front his last four seasons and finished with a percentage virtually identical to what Les has now. The record was 43-93 (.316). Les has been much better on neutral courts (14-13 to Mo's 14-23). (NOTE: All records were added from composite season-by-season records in the Bradley media guide to date.)

[AZ BU Fan]

Found it:
UserCP -> Settings and Options -> Edit Ignore List

There we go, much better.

I suggest AEBF you also then block all the fantsy posts about how good the Braves are, how much potential the Braves have, how good SM and EM are, particularly playing together, how JL justs needs more time, how JL's four guard offense would have beaten a Loyola team who KILLED BU inside last night, and for good measure, any posts who think de-redshirting JE will help BU this year more than robbing BU of a potential good 5th year in the future!

[peoriaspitfire]

I agree with you Da Coach last nite when Milos was shooting good and kept telling the guy next to me to take him out because he did not defend anyone and did not rebound at all. But I guess not many people watch both ends of the floor.

Agreed and that's why I had no issue with him being pulled. However, like others have said, we still need offense, so perhaps we protect him some on D with a zone. Now if he??™s going to hit 3s all night, then I guess, I??™ll take 3 for 2 any day.

[real fan]

I agree with you Da Coach last nite when Milos was shooting good and kept telling the guy next to me to take him out because he did not defend anyone and did not rebound at all. But I guess not many people watch both ends of the floor.

We built a bigger lead when Milos was in so you really donT know what you are talking about.

[SaintLouBrave22]

I suggest AEBF you also then block all the fantsy posts about how good the Braves are, how much potential the Braves have, how good SM and EM are, particularly playing together, how JL justs needs more time, how JL's four guard offense would have beaten a Loyola team who KILLED BU inside last night, and for good measure, any posts who think de-redshirting JE will help BU this year more than robbing BU of a potential good 5th year in the future!

Amen!