Games of Interest, Sunday 12/13- Illinois State loses at home to Niagara 76-68

[ManMythLegend]

Nice to see ISU lose and Niagra (with a hometown boy on the coaching staff) get a Win...

Sounds like "King O" was a no-show today.

-MML

[Da Coach]

Attendance just 6,088
Official stats-

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/ilsu/sports/m-baskbl/auto_pdf/MBBNUISUStats.pdf

[shaunguth]

Not even so much losing at home as losing what could be your chance for your "best" non-conference win, which would not be very good anyway.

Oh well. Some things never change!

You forgot to mention that the mighty undefeated redbirds missed this opportunity while their opponent was playing without their best player!

[shaunguth]

Sounds like "King O" was a no-show today.

You didn't think that was an NBA-worthy performance?

[Tulsa Brave]

Indiana State won at home over Oral Roberts.
ORU had an RPI of just 203 coming in.-

Oral Roberts 54
Indiana State 60 attendance 3,357
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketb...d=200912130274

Proof positive that RPI means nothing at this point in the season. ORU has wins over Missouri and at Stanford.

[tornado]

But the ISU loss is also PROOF POSITIVE that the RPI is usually relevant and predictive...
as we knew all along that ISU was really a 150 RPI team, exactly where the formula for RPI put them, despite their pretty 7-0 record that had even some of the Top 25 voters fooled.

also it's just possible maybe OE was not feeling well...he might have had an off game..

[real fan]

Looks like ISU feels the same way that WE do about Sunday games....arena about 1/2 full....or empty if you will.

Students are gone on breaktill mid january.

[Tulsa Brave]

I'll take Kansas by 20+ over Kansas State, St. John's, Washington, Western Carolina, VCU, and William & Mary. All those teams are ahead of them in the RPI. In fact, I'd take Kansas by double digits against all but a couple of the 20 teams ahead of them.

That's all I'll say about the RPI until February, at which point it will be much more realistic. For now, Sagarin and Pomeroy are far more accurate and predictive.

[versace4pres]

Watched the game yesterday, between switching back and forth for the Bears game, and ISU played well the first half as they pounded the ball inside. In the second half they went back to settling for poor three point shots. They simply got lazy. O seemed to be sleeping during most of the game. He had sloppy fouls and was very sluggish on D. Niagara made some half time adjustments and packed everything in the lane. They dared ISU to shoot over them and we all know how that worked...

They play like this come Valley time and you can drop them from the list of contenders.

Tough to complain about 6,000 considering school was out and the Bears were on against their rivals. Some here have a fetish with attendance. Give me 1000 loud, screaming hardcore fans over 5000 just coming in to watch the game any day. And I thought we were working on a tv deal up in Chicago. ISU has a decent deal with Comcast. At least 11 games on the tube, not counting the ESPN games. We should be able to get something.

[tornado]

Give me 1000 loud, screaming hardcore fans over 5000 just coming in to watch the game..

but you don't have to pay the bills and make the Civic Center folks happy...
I have a slight suspicion that the only people who matter would prefer the 5000

[shaunguth]

but you don't have to pay the bills and make the Civic Center folks happy...
I have a slight suspicion that the only people who matter would prefer the 5000

Yeah...might as well move the games to the new on-campus arena, but then there would be complaints of no alcohol sales and inability to get tickets to the games. I think I'll take the Civic Center at this point.

[Da Coach]

Tough to complain about 6,000 considering school was out and the Bears were on against their rivals. Some here have a fetish with attendance. Give me 1000 loud, screaming hardcore fans over 5000 just coming in to watch the game any day. And I thought we were working on a tv deal up in Chicago. ISU has a decent deal with Comcast. At least 11 games on the tube, not counting the ESPN games. We should be able to get something.

I guarantee you the people in the Athletic Department would rather have the higher numbers. Size of the crowd usually does correlate with the noise and excitement. I have not seen many crowds of 1000-2000 that made much noise in such a large arena.

And maybe you missed it, but Bradley does have just as good a deal with Comcast. Every game that Comcast televises will air on Comcast in Chicago LIVE on channel 102.

http://www.bradleybraves.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=3400&ATCLID=204828783

There are 9 games currently scheduled to air on Comcast Spotlight, and simultaneously in Chicago, starting with the 12/20 game at Iowa State, plus 8 MVC conference games.-

http://www.bradleybraves.com/SportSelect.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=3400&KEY=&SPID=1498&SPSID=19332

[versace4pres]

Crap, I did miss that. Thanks. It's just hard to get down sometimes so this is definitely a good thing. Can't hurt recruiting either.

[CubbieBear]

A bad schedule WILL catch up with you. I'm really looking forward to MVC play!

Me too....ISU is not that good--and will finish in the bottom half of the Valley--BOOK IT!! We will beat them twice---BOOK IT!! GO BU!!!

[Double D]

But the ISU loss is also PROOF POSITIVE that the RPI is usually relevant and predictive...
as we knew all along that ISU was really a 150 RPI team, exactly where the formula for RPI put them, despite their pretty 7-0 record that had even some of the Top 25 voters fooled.

also it's just possible maybe OE was not feeling well...he might have had an off game..

How is that possible?..earlier in the season when referring to his wrist injury he said the "nothing will keep me from feeding my family."