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  • #46
    Originally posted by tornado View Post
    facts are facts, they are neither pretty nor ugly
    Yep...and WITH OE ISU has gotten to a place BU can't seem to reach. Top 3 conference 2 years ina row and to the Valley finals 2 years in a row.

    Maybe TB can get us there THIS year.

    Go BU.

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    • #47
      but dogs...when BU was there back in the mid-90's, that's what one of the ISU fans labelled..
      "some marginal bu teams"

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      • #48
        Originally posted by tornado View Post
        but dogs...when BU was there back in the mid-90's, that's what one of the ISU fans labelled..
        "some marginal bu teams"
        http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread...538#post151538


        I'm only concerned about the present.....and neither TB or OE were around then. And the FACTS state BU no higher then 4th in the Valley with NO NCAA or NO Valley finals. ISU 2 trips to the finals and 2 top three Valley finsihes.

        Facts....

        They are neither pretty or ugly...just facts.

        Another fact NEITHER ISU/BU to the ULTIMATE place...NCAA's. ISU has ONE more chance with OE...BU has 3 more with TB. Thats why I like Brown better. Not saying he IS better...just a higher ceiling with 3 more opportunities to shine.

        Now get it done.

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        • #49
          Kool-Aid drinkers of the world unite. TB while showing promise doesn't scare one team in thne MVC. NOT ONE! OE is a chucker, but the Creighton's, UNI's and SIU's....and BRADLEY's would no doubt find it a lot easier to beat ILSU without Eldridge than with him. Had he gone in the draft last year, no team would have been sad to see him go.

          P'unk Stinnett has just as much talent as OE, but he's yet to live up to it in his career. The day "potential" replaces "actual" talent then we may as well give TB an NCAA championship, Gold Medal, NBA ring, Euro Championship and while we're at it let's put him in the HOF.

          He may not be AP, but then again AP was no Hawk. Players are players. Comparing across era's or decades is stupid. Don't have time to look it up, but put TB's Frosh #'s up vs. OE, then put their numbers up through 7-8 games as Soph. and you got your answer. Eldridge has and still is getting better. TB still has some work to do!!!!!

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          • #50
            Originally posted by DannyCooksey View Post
            Again.......The ORIGINAL debate. ORIGINAL DEBATE was Brown vs OE. Correct???

            THE DEBATE WAS NOT OE's NBA PROSPECTS!!!!!!!!!

            I am simply trying to stay in keeping with the integrity and intention of the thread which was to compare OE vs. Brown.
            I believe the original question/point of the thread was "Would you rather have Taylor Brown or Osiris Eldridge?"

            Considering OE will be gone after this year and TB is just beginning his second season at Bradley, I would take TB without a doubt!
            ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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            • #51
              Originally posted by NSBF View Post
              OE is a chucker, but the Creighton's, UNI's and SIU's....and BRADLEY's would no doubt find it a lot easier to beat ILSU without Eldridge than with him.
              You can't say the same about Bradley without TB?
              ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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              • #52
                Originally posted by NSBF View Post
                Eldridge has and still is getting better. TB still has some work to do!!!!!

                OE is getting better and TB is not....is THAT what you are saying. TB is shooting at a 60% clip....compare that to last year....look at his ppg compared to last year.....TB is improving.

                BTW...I don't understand "OE has getting better"....that makes no sense.


                OE is better...I agree.....EVERY player has work to do...OE, TB... I don't care WHAT the initials are.

                The post was WHO would you rather have...OE or TB. Again I would take 3 years of TB vs the 1 year OE has left. IF OE doesn't get ISU to the playoffs thats a terrible waste of what many feel is the best player in the MVC.

                TB still has 3 years left to try......

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by dogsrus View Post
                  The post was WHO would you rather have...OE or TB. Again I would take 3 years of TB vs the 1 year OE has left. IF OE doesn't get ISU to the playoffs thats a terrible waste of what many feel is the best player in the MVC.

                  TB still has 3 years left to try......
                  Thank you!

                  THAT was the original question posed in this thread and I completely agree with your answer.
                  ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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                  • #54
                    here's a trivia question..
                    what point guard in the MVC has the BEST assist to turnover ratio?

                    The answer is Eddren McCain...
                    (there is only one player better but he does not play primarily PG)

                    so will someone remind me why we keep seeing posts that comment negatively about EM?

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by tornado View Post
                      here's a trivia question..
                      what point guard in the MVC has the BEST assist to turnover ratio?

                      The answer is Eddren McCain...
                      (there is only one player better but he does not play primarily PG)

                      so will someone remind me why we keep seeing posts that comment negatively about EM?

                      Thats great but what does it have to do with OE and TB.......?

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by tornado View Post
                        here's a trivia question..
                        what point guard in the MVC has the BEST assist to turnover ratio?

                        The answer is Eddren McCain...
                        (there is only one player better but he does not play primarily PG)

                        so will someone remind me why we keep seeing posts that comment negatively about EM?
                        That is completely off-topic, but because Eddren does not take shots if he life depends on it, and that allows a D to back off of him, but off the passing lanes and completely slow down our offense. EM's A/TO ratio is so high because when he's in the game no one can create their own shots.

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                        • #57
                          Would have to take TB over OE, more overall contribution....

                          TB is #2 in the Valley in scoring avg YTD, and #7 in the Valley in rebounds per game YTD.

                          OE is 1st in the Valley in scoring avg YTD, but not in top 20 in rebounding..
                          BUilding for the Future

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by amckillip View Post
                            That is completely off-topic,..
                            that's why it's labeled trivia...hope it didn't bother anyone too much, but it highlights the fact that even semi-unpopular players in the Valley might just have a few redeeming qualities

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                            • #59
                              Case and point:

                              TB average points per shot = 2.33 (wow are these stats right??)

                              OE average points per shot = 1.48

                              The reason TB isn't on the draft list is because he's a sophomore from the MVC; honestly who would expect a sophomore from the MVC to enter the draft?? He did not play much last year therefore he hasn't had any exposure. OE has been pretty sufficiently promoted especially with putting his name in the draft last year, and he's a senior, hence, his name is on espn's drafting report.

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                              • #60
                                Bottom line is between this thread and the their loss today the ISU posters aren't in too good of a mood.

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