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  • #16
    Originally posted by SFP View Post
    Big X could make a concession with ND and tell them they can keep their TV deal for themselves, split the pot with the teams they play like they do now and it becomes a win win for both ND and the Big X. ND could still keep their games with USC and probably with Navy and Army. ND though is also being courted by the Big East.

    Big X IMO, would be better off going after Missouri.
    I hadn't really ever thought about it, but after ND, Mizzoue does seem like the best fit. Already and established rivalry with U of I. A major college. And grabs the St. Louis Market (I KNOW Mizzou isn't in St. Louis). Would Mizzou leave the Big XII? Good Call SFP!

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    • #17
      In order to join the conference you would have to go FBS in football. In order to go FBS in football you have to average 12,000 fans per game among other things. If they add a 12th member it will not be a current mid-major.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Braves4Life View Post
        I think the the only Valley schools that would be of interest to the Big-10 (because of football) would be UNI or SIU....... and I doubt it would ever happen. The next team added to the B-10 would have to be a football school, IMO.
        We have a better shot than these two schools and we have a snowball's chance in hell. The Big 10 is not going to bring in a directional school. One that just had to cut baseball and the other having numerous financial and academic problems. Plus does the Big 10 really need the Carbondale market?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by versace4pres View Post
          We have a better shot than these two schools and we have a snowball's chance in hell. The Big 10 is not going to bring in a directional school. One that just had to cut baseball and the other having numerous financial and academic problems. Plus does the Big 10 really need the Carbondale market?
          I believe all B4L was saying is if the Big X considered a MVC school, IF, it would be only ones with a D-1 football team. So in fact those two would be considered over us in the pecking order unless they are trying to grow their basketball reach like the Big East has done. Now that would be something!
          "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
          ??” Thomas Jefferson
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          • #20
            Thanks Pete. You knew exactly what I meant. Of course, in reality, NO MVC has any chance to ever be chosen to join the Big-10.

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            • #21
              I had read elsewhere that Rutgers was getting serious consideration. They're fielding some top level teams, and they capture the NYC market since they're only about 40mi away from the city.

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              • #22
                Not that it matters, as B4L has pointed out that no MVC school would be chosen, but ISU and MSU also have football programs that are D-1. If the Big 10 were to grow it most likely would be heading east.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by BUBalum05 View Post
                  I had read elsewhere that Rutgers was getting serious consideration. They're fielding some top level teams, and they capture the NYC market since they're only about 40mi away from the city.
                  Why would Rutgers move from the Big East to The Big Ten? If there are any teams that would leave the Big East for the Big Ten and remotely it would be Syracuse or Louisville. Teams and institutions are trying cut their travel. What sense would Rutgers play into that. I understand trying to capture the NY market but that would be the only plus.
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                  • #24
                    What about Cincinnati? Pretty close to the geographic region. Good Football team right now. Historically they had been pretty good in basketball.

                    Notre Dame is the team that should join the Big 10 as far a perfect fit goes, but they won't because of all the reasons stated.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Majik45 View Post
                      What about Cincinnati? Pretty close to the geographic region. Good Football team right now. Historically they had been pretty good in basketball.

                      Notre Dame is the team that should join the Big 10 as far a perfect fit goes, but they won't because of all the reasons stated.
                      Agree that ND would be a great fit because of their national reach but Cincnnati would not be considered because of Ohio State.
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                      • #26
                        I heard a former big ten football coach on the score saying NDU no longer had an appreciable financial tv revenue advantage when compared to the financial benefits joining the big ten would bring. I think it was Jerry dinardo or something like that.
                        My sports blog.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by thefish7 View Post
                          I heard a former big ten football coach on the score saying NDU no longer had an appreciable financial tv revenue advantage when compared to the financial benefits joining the big ten would bring. I think it was Jerry dinardo or something like that.
                          This may be the case for the TV deal but they keep 100% of bowl revenue (which hasnt been much recently), and this is a HUGE money maker for them... with other schools splitting all bowl revenue evenly- they have a huge advantage not splitting theirs with anyone...

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                          • #28
                            Here is the official Big Ten Statement on expansion


                            short summary...
                            "..that the timing is right for the conference to once again conduct
                            a thorough evaluation of options for conference structure and expansion.

                            The COP/C understands that speculation about the conference is ongoing....
                            the Big Ten (will) evaluate options, while respecting peer conferences and their member institutions.
                            No action by the COP/C is expected in the near term."

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