Pantagraph article explains why Illinois lost to Bradley

[Da Coach]

but the Clemson writere would write how they let one get away from them.

And they did. Clemson let one get away don't you think?

Like I said before if Illinois wins the game against BU it wouldn't surprise me

if DR would have said BU let one slip away since they led most of the way.

This conversation to me has never been about what some unknown Clemson writer said. It is about the way Mark Tupper is inconsistent and hypocritical in how he reports the games Illinois plays when they lose (to BU) vs. when they win (vs. Clemson).

[lefty]

This conversation has never been about what some unknown Clemson writer said. It is about the way Mark Tupper is inconsistent and hypocritical in how he reports the games Illinois plays when they lose (to BU) vs. when they win (vs. Clemson).

Well he is an Illinois writer isn't he. what do you expect? My point was any team's sports writer would say the same thing.

We wouldn't have critiqued Tupper saying this if he just said it about UTAH but since we said it with BU then we take offense to it.

Again I'm sure DR has said similar things over the years regarding BU losses where they were leading late and lost the game...I'm starting to get dizzy here............

[Da Coach]

OK, so he is above any criticism whenever he insults the intelligence of any college basketball fan with ridiculous statements like-
"let the game slip away"
"fell asleep"
"let Utah win the game"?

[tornado]

come on Da Coach -- Bradley is undefeated in the Jim Les era, save for those games we "let them win the game".

[Da Coach]

Or when they fell asleep.

[lefty]

OK, so he is above any criticism whenever he insults the intelligence of any college basketball fan with ridiculous statements like-
"let the game slip away"
"fell asleep"
"let Utah win the game"?

Maybe this is our difference of opinion DC. I see no problem with the first two quotes at all. To me it doesn't insult anyone's intelligence. If a team blows a late lead I think this phrase is fairly common...

I can see how the "let" Utah win could be insulting....but in all honesty I just don't read sportswriters columns in ordedr to scrutinize them.

I respect your opinion DC.......I just didn't take the article as insulting of people's intelligence that's all.

[dogsrus]

Maybe this is our difference of opinion DC. I see no problem with the first two quotes at all. To me it doesn't insult anyone's intelligence. If a team blows a late lead I think this phrase is fairly common...

I can see how the "let" Utah win could be insulting....but in all honesty I just don't read sportswriters columns in ordedr to scrutinize them.

I respect your opinion DC.......I just didn't take the article as insulting of people's intelligence that's all.

Nor did I....I think you have to consider his "audience" also. He's writing to, mainly, Illini fans. He is going to try and appease them if he can. He has two angles....BU earned it or the Illini let it slip away.

Its really a matter of opinion as to which is the truth...probably a combo of both. He just chose to go with the "let it slip away"...which in reality is true. Obviously BU helped them let it slip away....

Personally I could care WHAT one writer opines....BU won...I was there and got to witness it. NOTHING anyone can say/write can take that away or lessen it.