Valley Home Attendance

[SaintLouBrave22]

If they pipe in crowd noise make it loud enough to wake the band up also. Kind of hard for anyone to stay awake while all the PA announcements are going on during the timeouts. Turn the band and cheerleaders loose like most other arenas.

I agree with that statement 100%.


The PA announcer is so worried about getting the announcements during the timeouts correct that he doesn't pay attention to parts of the game AND he can't even do his homework right and get players names correctly.


Its pronounced KUH-KNEE-ZU-VICH

and its MEE-LOSH


Its not that difficult to get the more important things right...


The Qdoba race and all that other garbage can kiss my you know what!

[dogsrus]

And what is more important, the number of fans who are in the arena or the number who pay to buy seats? Ask anyone associated with Bradley or with any college basketball team....it's the number of tickets sold and the revenue generated that is important. Bradley has reached record high revenues these past few years. That is not deniable. Nobody cares about no-shows, unless it eventually leads to less tickets sold, which it hasn't.

So as long as we sell-out the arena its OK if no one shows up. YIKES.

[shaunguth]

So as long as we sell-out the arena its OK if no one shows up. YIKES.

It's kinda hard to force 4,000+ "fans" to show up if they'd rather stay home to watch the Bears!

[dogsrus]

My point on all this attendance stuff is NOT so much who, what, how, how many, where, when is being reported its just that the atmosphere, in general, at BU is bad and getting worse IMO.

Then when you try and blow smoke up my arse and tell me that after 2 games we are averaging 9k...PUKE.

I'm not a numbers guy..I am more about results. So I'm glad BU is happy with a morgue as long as its a profitable one.

[dogsrus]

It's kinda hard to force 4,000+ "fans" to show up if they'd rather stay home to watch the Bears!

I agree...I'd say it was 1/2 to watch football and the other half due to good weather (the week before).

Bottom line....SUNDAY games should be outlawed. Can't sell a car...can't go to a game.

[BU_EMT128]

The Qdoba race and all that other garbage can kiss my you know what!

That massage cam is the worst thing I have ever seen.

[Grassman]

As I said, all schools, as far as I know, report attendance as tickets sold, not just Bradley. So I don't quite understand the issue here. Do you want Bradley to do a body count each game, and report the actual number of people in the stands each game, despite the fact that no other school does that?

I don't like Sunday games either. But I'll go when they play them.

Early season games have always had a lot more no-shows than games later in the season, especially compared with conference games. I don't think that has ever been any different, so why are we talking about it again?

And what is more important, the number of fans who are in the arena or the number who pay to buy seats? Ask anyone associated with Bradley or with any college basketball team....it's the number of tickets sold and the revenue generated that is important. Bradley has reached record high revenues these past few years. That is not deniable. Nobody cares about no-shows, unless it eventually leads to less tickets sold, which it hasn't.

There is not any need for a physical body count. When you enter Carver Arena, the bar code on yout ticket is scanned and yours and all ticked customers are registered as in attendance.
Therefore they CAN provide a pretty accurate correct attendance.
They count tickets sold, which include non attending season ticket holders purely because, it looks better and for the reasons stated above..

[shaunguth]

My point on all this attendance stuff is NOT so much who, what, how, how many, where, when is being reported its just that the atmosphere, in general, at BU is bad and getting worse IMO.

Then when you try and blow smoke up my arse and tell me that after 2 games we are averaging 9k...PUKE.

I'm not a numbers guy..I am more about results. So I'm glad BU is happy with a morgue as long as its a profitable one.

Maybe they should've went with a 5,000-seat on-campus arena. That way it would (hopefully) be full all the time and there would (hopefully) be a better student turnout as well.

[dogsrus]

That massage cam is the worst thing I have ever seen.

OMG...I about lost it when I saw that. You gotta be kidding me. But, I must admit...the excitment level went through the roof following that brainstorm of an idea. YIKES....

Band...who needs a band.

[dogsrus]

Maybe they should've went with a 5,000-seat on-campus arena. That way it would (hopefully) be full all the time and there would (hopefully) be a better student turnout as well.

Just for the record I was NOT saying YOU are blowing any smoke......its the Universities.

Yes on the on-campus...no on the size.

[dogsrus]

There is not any need for a physical body count. When you enter Carver Arena, the bar code on yout ticket is scanned and yours and all ticked customers are registered as in attendance.
Therefore they CAN provide a pretty accurate correct attendance.
They count tickets sold, which include non attending season ticket holders purely because, it looks better and for the reasons stated above..

Exactly......


Tell me there were 5000 people at the game but due to season ticket sales the money generated (alls that we, BU, REALLY cares about) was from 9k tickets sold.

[FutureBrave2013]

I know for a fact Butler counts butts in seats and I doubt they are the only ones.

[shaunguth]

I know for a fact Butler counts butts in seats and I doubt they are the only ones.

That way you know approx. how many no-shows there were at a sold-out game. Unless, of course, Butler does it the illinois state way and announces the attendance at those games as the official capacity instead of the actual "butts in seats". In which case I ask....why do it only in those instances that are not sold out?

I've always said that I would prefer every school count the "attendance" as just that, people in attendance. But that's obviously not the way every school does things. However, both situations involve schools that don't want you to know how many paying customers decided not to show up at each game.

[SFP]

WOW all this for what is the actual number of people attending a game. I could see if we were talking the number of people who are well informed and actually show up to vote for elections and local referendums. That truly has more effect on our quality of life issues then these sporting events.

One way to increase the number of folks who buy a ticket to show up is to charge more. A Rolling Stone ticket now days cost a ton so if you buy one you can bet your sweet buns they show up.

On those fans that seem so apathetic and have the prime seats and seem to ruin the atmosphere, well that has been going on since Carver opened. I use to complain about that but they are the ones funding the team. Unless the team moves to a more updated venue where the fat cats can have their own comfortable space that situation will never change. I'm surprised Chico has chimed in yet.

[MacabreMob]

WOW all this for what is the actual number of people attending a game. I could see if we were talking the number of people who are well informed and actually show up to vote for elections and local referendums. That truly has more effect on our quality of life issues then these sporting events.

One way to increase the number of folks who buy a ticket to show up is to charge more. A Rolling Stone ticket now days cost a ton so if you buy one you can bet your sweet buns they show up.

On those fans that seem so apathetic and have the prime seats and seem to ruin the atmosphere, well that has been going on since Carver opened. I use to complain about that but they are the ones funding the team. Unless the team moves to a more updated venue where the fat cats can have their own comfortable space that situation will never change. I'm surprised Chico has chimed in yet.

Chico did make a comment on Post #26 of this thread.

I also think "WOW - all this over attendance."

But so I like to blame Tornado.