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I don't have a problem with the new rule. In fact, this situation comes up so rarely that I think everyone is overthinking this a little. I'm sure no one can tell me the last time this happened in a BU game. I know I can't.
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I think the new foul rule is a good thing. It's more likely a poor free throw shooter will fake a minor injury to let a better player shoot than a coach will order a hit on a guy. There's rules and codes of conduct in place to discourage the latter; but there's no penalty for the former.
DD isn't a fantastic free throw shooter to begin with, so it didn't really hurt us last night. Lord knows we are quickly proving ourselves a very poor free throw shooting team.Comment
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I think it a bit premature to label this team a poor free throw shooting team.Originally posted by BuAlum03 View Post
Last season BU shot 72% on free throws, which is above average. The previous year BU was 74.4%. So far this season (2 games) Bradley is at 66.7% (34/51), but I am sure that will improve.Comment
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DC, I hope it improves, but i said we "are proving ourselves" a poor free throw shooting team. If it doesn't improve, then we will have proven ourselves one.
I do think we're better than we have been the past 2 games. I think we shot really well against Lewis, so our guys are capable. But when a stiff like me can shoot 75% i expect guys who play on scholarship to shoot better than they have.
I remember several years ago we were a very good free throw shooting team, and coach said that we were using the ft line as a "weapon". I like that philosophy. You can put a lot of pressure on teams when they know you'll hurt them for fouling you.Comment
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That's the first thing that came to my mind when Herzog explained the rule Fish.Originally posted by thefish7 View PostDUBL R 1
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Do you honestly believe that a coach would go into his huddle and say "here's what we're going to do. We're going to let player A go to the basket and when he goes up for a shot I want you to foul him so hard that we will injure him and he'll be unable to shoot free throws. That way we can pick player B to shoot his free throws, and he's not as good."Originally posted by Dubl R 1 View PostComment
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Not really, disturbed, but I could see a coach saying, if players A or B get near the basket, foul them excessively hard. And then switch ot his interior monologue-- if they come up a bit lame we'll be able to pick player C.Comment
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No..but there are coaches who'll say...
Joey - I want you to go in there and neutralize the guy...hard foul...I mean really hard and make sure he isn't able to take the FT's.
read the ESPN account of that incident......sounds like Cheney was virtually made for this new rule...Comment
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Would much rather see someone swinging the bat than a pitcher taking strike 3 or bunting with 2 strikes. Very few Zambranos around.Originally posted by Guinness View PostWhat part of illegal don't you understand?Comment
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IMO thats like having a guy who gets to shoot free throw for Shaq every time he's fouled. Make players PLAY the game, if there is a weakness, the player should either fix it, or the team works around it. Not bringing in some terrible fielder who only wants to work on hitting. The AL is more popular IMO because newcomers to baseball don't want to learn the intricacies of the double-switch and small ball, they want to see Johnny McSteroids slam the cover off a ball. Which if thats what the sport wants, fine, I'm only one fan. For me though, it's always gonna be the NL, where players are expected to be complete players and not just be given passes for their weaknesses, and if that changes, so will my viewing habits, if it's better for them to change, then my guess is that they will do so...Originally posted by Chico View PostComment
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How is a pitcher taking strike right down the middle just because he's a pitcher, PLAYING the game?Originally posted by amckillip View PostWhat part of illegal don't you understand?Comment
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Chico we see eye to eye on this one! Also, pitching around your number 8 hitter to get to the pitcher! That really helps the game? There are two ways to look at this obviously but I like the DH and believe it makes for a much better, entertaining game.Originally posted by Chico View Post"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
??” Thomas Jefferson
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How is Shaq shooting a FT he know he's more than likely going to miss any different. Shaq shoots about .350 from the FT line. The greats shoot .950. A conservative average for a pitcher is .150. Albert Pujols, the greatest player in baseball in a long long while, hits .330. The comparative difference is less in baseball...Originally posted by Chico View Post
Pujols, Mauer, Ramirez(Hankley), often take pitches down the middle. Look at averages. And with pitchers, the averages can be misleading, often a pitcher will swing to allow a hit and run, or bunt a batter over and it's not considered a sacrifice. The level of gaming that not having a DH introduces into baseball is outstanding, many casual Baseball fans don't notice it. But I can take the Yankees, pencil in the same 9 every night and say 'Have at it boys...' It takes a lot more skill to do what Tony LaRussa, Charlie Manuel, and even Joe Torre do on a nightly basis, scrutinizing matchups, having to worry about when to pull a pitcher based on who's coming up in the lineup, who to pinch hit, when to make defensive subs, none of which regularly occur in an AL.
We could get into a very lengthy debate on the difference between NL vs. AL and the long line of issues the DH causes baseball - suffice it to say, many of us like the intellectual side of baseball that no DH requires.Comment
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The DH is an example of everything wrong in America. Or the world. Or the UNIVERSE! Seriously, can't imagine how anyone who likes baseball could actually prefer the DH. Pitchers are on the field, they should have to hit. Having a DH not only absolves the pitcher from having to hit (why not have a pinch fielder for the pitcher too... Or perhaps free substitution so no one ever has to do anything they're not good at), but it completely ruins any strategy required in baseball. You change pitchers when you feel like it, you pinch hit when you feel like it. Double-switches become extinct. Ich.Comment
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I love how this morphed into a conversation about baseball. Lets see if I can morph it further.
The DH protects the pitchers from any accountability. The pitchers would less likely purposely plunk a guy if he has to stand in there himself. Granted in baseball, an eye for an eye typically means "you hit our best hitter, we'll hit yours"; however, the fear factor woud still exist rather than sending Big Papi into the box for you.
The NHL does it right by allowing fighting. That actually controls the violence of the game. If you make a violent run at the opposing team's best player, you'd better be able to handle your self with your fists when their tough guy comes looking for you.... scuffle it up, sit 5 minutes in the box. Without fighting, there would be a lot more weasles out there with chippy stick play and cheap shots and thus more injuries. Stuff like that may escape the ref's, but it wouldn't escape the eyes of the enforcers. We all slow down a little when we see the police cars, don't we
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