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This decision lacked imagination, it had bad timing, wasn't well thought out, and hurt the chances for the team to win. The fight happened in September. There could have be dozens of other punishments given to Brown between that time and last night's game. With some imagination Coach could have had him doing constructive "time" by doing community service work or working with HS kids. Extra push-ups, sprints, late-night workouts, extra hours of running after practice. Here's one... Making him go to EVERY athletic event by all the other BU teams and supporting teams that don't play in front of a crowd. There were endless possibilities of punishments that would have been very uncomfortable for TB without hurting the team & fans. No, just the 'ole game suspension bit. Not something that may be a positive for TB and the team and/or the community. No thought. No imagination. That's what I have come to expect from our coach and that's what I got.
That was a winnable game last night and one that would have meant something down the road. I'm sure Coach Les got a delight out of the game by staying close by playing 4 guards the whole game. That's what he has shown to love--guards and trying to prove he can win with guards. And does it really matter in his job security since he is the "golden boy" of BU basketball who has the job forever...
This has been coming for a few years (mostly because year in and year out BU finishes 4-6 in the league), but I've had it with Les. Done, period, over for me. Last night's decision was bad, period. Many more positive things could have come out of more creative punishments. Even something as easy as suspending him for a couple cupcake games that we could win with 4 guards? He still would have to sit and watch just like last night.
One question GTD, how do you know that the decision to sit TB was JL's?
If I were a gambling person, I would wager that the decision came from someone higher up at BU
Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final
???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™
And the fact that he let his teammates, university, and fans down may just ensure that other players don't do similar dumb things.
but proper justice penalizes the guilty and does NOT penalize the innocent...
TB should have been penalized for the closed scrimmage and the Lewis game, then he'd have still had MORE than any DUI or bar brawl/campus brawl that's been in the news in the past 2 years!
One question GTD, how do you know that the decision to sit TB was JL's?
If I were a gambling person, I would wager that the decision came from someone higher up at BU
You could be right. If that is the case my apologies to the Coach and my comments go up the ladder. Thank you for your insight.
but proper justice penalizes the guilty and does NOT penalize the innocent...
TB should have been penalized for the closed scrimmage and the Lewis game, then he'd have still had MORE than any DUI or bar brawl/campus brawl that's been in the news in the past 2 years!
You could be right. If that is the case my apologies to the Coach and my comments go up the ladder. Thank you for your insight.
No insight involved at all GTD. Just a feeling I have after listening to the pregame show on WMBD last night.
Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final
???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™
george, I have had my own kids break rules while they are playing for some youth sports team that I am coaching.
I know there needs to be discipline, but I know also that if I discipline my kid by holding him out of a summer tournament game it then hurts everyone else on the team...so I have to use a little thought and do what's right and not what is knee-jerk.
If holding the kid out hurts the team and the entire institution, then the kid ends up feeling a little vindicated and maybe NOT so totally humbled.
Just my thoughts.........but I yield to the decision of the coach and Prez.
Whats the logic in that? It only helps the opponent...
It's not like TB is a projected All-American. I agree in some sort of punishment for his ill-advised actions, but to hype this gamne up so much and then pull off the big surprise at game time was not, IMO, the right thing to do. What games he was going to have sit out should have been known before hand.
george, I have had my own kids break rules while they are playing for some youth sports team that I am coaching.
I know there needs to be discipline, but I know also that if I discipline my kid by holding him out of a summer tournament game it then hurts everyone else on the team...so I have to use a little thought and do what's right and not what is knee-jerk.
If holding the kid out hurts the team and the entire institution, then the kid ends up feeling a little vindicated and maybe NOT so totally humbled.
Just my thoughts.........but I yield to the decision of the coach and Prez.
I do the same with my kid on his teams and he is an important part of the all the teams he plays on. There are many other punishments that are more effective without hurting others.
I do the same with my kid on his teams and he is an important part of the all the teams he plays on. There are many other punishments that are more effective without hurting others.
FWIW, I think that your community service idea is very appropriate for TB's situation.
Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final
???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™
Good thoughts by all......but don't you think by keeping him out of the game you reinforce that its a TEAM. Everything you do as an individual effects the TEAM.
You don't play D you hurt everyone else....you hog the ball you hurt your teammates...you goof up outside of the University OR in the clasroom and you hurt your team.
Now you have teammates looking out for each other and monitoring what goes on 24/7......
Brown should have been punished,but---Not in a way that hurt the team as this clearly did. Regardless of who determined the punishment, it was wrong and way overdone,ie, don't punish me for someone elses infraction! If I work my butt off to get ready for this game and the season, I would be super PO'D if this happened to me. If I were a recruit, I might start having some doubts. This was not a DUI, a theft, or a major infraction. As for the Pres., it is not her place or job to determine the punishment or become involved other than to be sure the coach handles the situation properly. How it is handled should be the coaches decision. I hope the Pres. was not micromanaging again and I hope JL is allowed to run the BB program as he sees fit, even if he is sometimes wrong as he clearly was in this instance IMO.
Its possible that after the TW issue the prez and JL came to the agreement that any arrest results in sitting out (at least) the very next regular season or post season game as a team rule. I'm not certain this was the case, but it is possible that JL had to enforce an existing agreement, not just some new, arbitrary rule.
I cant think of any coach who is willing going to lose a starting player for 2 regular season games for an infraction that occured in September. Especially when there were exhibitions and or extra conditioning that the player could have missed or done.
This type of decision, and I am not guaranting, but Id come close to booking it, came from the administration and I am willing to also say the decision did not occur until very recently.
The punishment does not fit the crime. Any other school Brown misses the Lewis game and does all kinds of extra running. But at BU since we have to be more PC then anyone the guy loses 2 games.
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