First time without a fall signee for Les?

[tornado]

we're all entitled to our predictions...but it isn't as likely he'll be FOY if he's redshirting
..but again, I wonder what it is that causes this obsession among ISU fans to come here and dis on BU and its fans...
don't you guys have anything worthwhile to discuss on your own board?

[Nacho]

we're all entitled to our predictions...but it isn't as likely he'll be FOY if he's redshirting
..but again, I wonder what it is that causes this obsession among ISU fans to come here and dis on BU and its fans...
don't you guys have anything worthwhile to discuss on your own board?

If this is the "premier MVC message board", guests should be welcomed with open arms for civil discussions, shouldn't they? You are all obsessed with "hit counts" and "page views", I wouldn't think visitors would bother you much...

[DannyCooksey]

Given the accolades Prosser received and the way many fans with inside knowledge spoke of him I admit to being very surprised he is being told to sit this year out. With only Singh providing returning experience inside I would've thought an impact freshmen would get a lot of PT right away. I never expected to read this.

[SaintLouBrave22]

Given the accolades Prosser received and the way many fans with inside knowledge spoke of him I admit to being very surprised he is being told to sit this year out. With only Singh providing returning experience inside I would've thought an impact freshmen would get a lot of PT right away. I never expected to read this.

I am as surprised as you Danny, but my only guess is that they think Anthony Thompson is going to be a big contributor this season...


I hope as everyone else does that they are correct, because if they aren't, there will be a whole lot of questioning as to why Prosser was redshirted.

[jeffsu]

I hope as everyone else does that they are correct, because if they aren't, there will be a whole lot of questioning as to why Prosser was redshirted.

I don't think anyone expected AT and WE to be where they are at. That's the key. We're more equipped than we all expected.

And if game time proves they can't handle it? Put JP in. It's not like they can't give up the redshirt if the team ends up needing him for one reason or another.

[Double D]

Given the accolades Prosser received and the way many fans with inside knowledge spoke of him I admit to being very surprised he is being told to sit this year out. With only Singh providing returning experience inside I would've thought an impact freshmen would get a lot of PT right away. I never expected to read this.

IMO Jordan would have been a solid contributor as a 5 this year under different circumstances. However while he has the talent to develop into a 4, his current skill set makes him a 5. That being considered he is likely on par talent wise with the following 3 players who all would be considered to be a "5."

Sam Singh, 6th year player 6-9 240 lbs. reliable known quantity

Will Egolf, redshirt So., 6-9 232 lbs., projected starter, very quick and athletic 3rd year player who has shown the potential to be a difference making 5 man.

Anthony Thompson, redshirt So., 6-10 215 lbs., looks to have develped into a contributor.

The decision to redshirt JP was a solid one and in no way a knock against his talent or potential. The alternative would have been for him to share minutes with 3 other players during his first year.

[Da Coach]

Given the accolades Prosser received and the way many fans with inside knowledge spoke of him I admit to being very surprised he is being told to sit this year out. With only Singh providing returning experience inside I would've thought an impact freshmen would get a lot of PT right away. I never expected to read this.

Judging from you insulting post on Redbirdfan about Jordan, it's obvious this is more of a trolling/anti-BU post that one expressing real concern.
http://www.redbirdfan.com/msgforum/v...hp?f=2&t=12488 (4th post here)

But this decision to redshirt can always be reversed if Coach les needs Jordan. However, with Sam Singh healthy, with Will Egolf looking like a 25-30 mpg player, and the progression of Anthony Thompson and Taylor Brown, redshirting JP will only make him better and benefits him and Bradley. Jordan is very talented, as evidenced by the interest that many BCS schools showed. And don't forget, Tim Jankovich also highly coveted Jordan. As good as Jordan is now, he will only get better with time. Can anyone name a big man who was an impact in the league as a true freshman?
That is the reason it's wiser for JP to redshirt.

[BradleyBrave]

Can anyone name a big man who was an impact in the league as a true freshman?

Patrick O'Bryant!

[Da Coach]

Patrick O'Bryant!

Patrick was a force his sophomore season, but his freshman season was a little frustrating as we all could see his talent and potential, but he spent a lot of time on the bench in foul trouble, and underachieved a bit his freshman year.
Still his numbers were good for a freshman: 23 mpg, 10.0 ppg, 7.4 rpg, 75 blocks, and a team-leading 89 personal fouls and 4 foul-outs.

[DannyCooksey]

Judging from you insulting post on Redbirdfan about Jordan, it's obvious this is more of a trolling/anti-BU post that one expressing real concern.
http://www.redbirdfan.com/msgforum/v...hp?f=2&t=12488 (4th post here)

But this decision to redshirt can always be reversed if Coach les needs Jordan. However, with Sam Singh healthy, with Will Egolf looking like a 25-30 mpg player, and the progression of Anthony Thompson and Taylor Brown, redshirting JP will only make him better and benefits him and Bradley. Jordan is very talented, as evidenced by the interest that many BCS schools showed. And don't forget, Tim Jankovich also highly coveted Jordan. As good as Jordan is now, he will only get better with time. Can anyone name a big man who was an impact in the league as a true freshman?
That is the reason it's wiser for JP to redshirt.

What exactly was insulting there Coach?? If he's not ready to play as a frosh in the Valley how would he have been ready in a BCS league? Maybe those BCS coaches thought the same thing? I know that is crazy but it's possible.

Of course it's not of any concern. I would say it's curiosity and uh.....I don't troll. Sorry to disappoint you.

I can't think of a true freshmen post that made an impact. I agree there. You can rationalize it anyway you want but if you answer it objectively and honestly given the hype and accolades of this player how can you not be surprised he's being red-shirted?

[ph]

I think most of the Prosser playing heavy minutes comments were made in a different context.

Prosser was signed before SS was granted a 6th year. We knew nothing about any AT progress until Brazil, but still did not know enough until exhibition, and we were never sure about WE until this exhibition. If any of those 3 circumstances were different, JP would be in a position to play more this year.
I still think he would eventually do quite well if he was given the PT this year, but I am certain he will produce more in his 5th year.
So in comparison to what I knew in the Summer, I would be suprised JP is redshirting. A little less suprised this week, though.

The bottom line is even if JP would win FOY this year, he'll be better his 5th year. A few years ago, Bo Ryan (Wisc) redshirted a McD AA (the MVP I believe) center. While I do not think JP should of been a McD AA, I do not think it's completely strange JP redshirted. It's nice, real nice, when a quality big man redshirts.

[mrcoachdude]

Well put PH.....

agreed

[SFP]

I always thought that JP's expectation were to high on this site. Go figure! I may be a minority but I'm not shocked that he is being RS a little surprised but really happy about it. If we can afford this luxury that means our bigs are ready to do their thing. JP is a talent that needs to be put in a winning situation and the added year will do just that.

[BU_EMT128]

Still his numbers were good for a freshman: 23 mpg, 10.0 ppg, 7.4 rpg, 75 blocks, and a team-leading 89 personal fouls and 4 foul-outs.

I would wet myself from pure glee if we could get those numbers out of a freshman, minus the fouls of course. lol

[SaintLouBrave22]

I just noticed that Cooksey & cpacmel are both in the 97th percentile of posters on BradleyFans....
seriously...you guy have each posted more here than 97% of our posters!!

I made a cursory attempt to see if even one BU poster is even inside your 5th percentile, and nope---
I know you guys had some problems with your post counters over there....but the most prolific BU guy I can find on your board is a guy with 13 career posts, with the next most being apparently a guy with only 1...

Do you guys have team-envy??
Is it the tradition, the packed houses, 12,000 fans, NCAA victories, and post-season titles, maybe the number of NBA players, the national recognition??
Come on...give us a hint, what causes that??
I have to suspect it is jealousy....true team-envy.

I think they have posters of Jim in those short basketball shorts in their bedrooms