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  • #16
    Originally posted by houstontxbrave View Post
    Also I guarantee he is not one bit pleased with the work by his two "veteran" point guards.
    I agree, and him commenting more on DSE's play in limited minutes told us as much.


    If this continues Friday, I expect things to get very interesting in that particular spot in the lineup.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by pfunk880 View Post
      Yeah, that's what I figured as well.

      Brown and Warren were head-and-shoulders above the rest of the team on Sunday.

      I felt like Will could have been right up there with them.


      He didn't play much in the 2nd half, picked up 4 offensive boards, and scored 6 points with very little touches. (see my comment on PG feeding the post failures)


      But yes, I completely agree.


      I also feel like if Chris plays the Theron taking the ball to the goal role, he could score 14+ every night. The kid can shoot free throws.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by BuAlum03 View Post
        Im not calling you out, hou, but did you think TB played poorly? I thought he brought lots of intensity, and was a major factor in us not getting completely buried on the boards. I assumed he didn't play the last 10 minutes because he's locked up his playing time and coach Les wanted to see what others could do.
        Honestly sometimes a coach is hardest on his best players. I truely believe Brown is one of his best players. Just get the feeling that JL/staff saw something, especially on the D side and on the boards. I did not think TB played poorly but I only got to listen, seeing it in person and then on film is completely different.

        Just a curiosity as to why Brown didnt play in the last 10 minutes. Thought there probably was a relation between minutes and defensive play. Could be way off and likely am with how the guards played. But the twittler post likely was a direct shot at the team but I still think it was a shot at one of JL's better players and trying to enforce its a team game and leave the I at the door.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by houstontxbrave View Post
          Honestly sometimes a coach is hardest on his best players. I truely believe Brown is one of his best players. Just get the feeling that JL/staff saw something, especially on the D side and on the boards. I did not think TB played poorly but I only got to listen, seeing it in person and then on film is completely different.

          Just a curiosity as to why Brown didnt play in the last 10 minutes. Thought there probably was a relation between minutes and defensive play. Could be way off and likely am with how the guards played. But the twittler post likely was a direct shot at the team but I still think it was a shot at one of JL's better players and trying to enforce its a team game and leave the I at the door.
          He came out at the same time as Edge I believe, so my thought was that he could have been doing some jawing as well.

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          • #20
            [QUOTE=houstontxbrave;144970]Honestly sometimes a coach is hardest on his best players. I truely believe Brown is one of his best players. Just get the feeling that JL/staff saw something, especially on the D side and on the boards. I did not think TB played poorly but I only got to listen, seeing it in person and then on film is completely different.



            Wasn't JL hard on another of his best players who eventually left the program to play closer to home....

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            • #21
              Originally posted by dogsrus View Post
              Wasn't JL hard on another of his best players who eventually left the program to play closer to home....
              That JL didn't know what he was doing. I think this one does.
              Onward and Upward!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
                I would say it's probably a commentary on some of the laziness on defense and on the glass. I don't think you can pinpoint one guy or one position, because I saw guys who SHOULD be great perimeter defenders getting beat regularly, and guys who SHOULD be owning the glass getting outpositioned and outhustled underneath. That's what I saw Sunday, so that's my take.

                I'm just asking..... you said the other day that this was preseason so why were some getting all worked up about some of the bad/poor play we saw.

                Now you point out you saw the same things some of US noticed.....

                I dunno...seems like JL saw what WE initially pointed out and has similar concerns.

                Not calling you out just possibly not understanding your thoughts....

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by dogsrus View Post
                  I'm just asking..... you said the other day that this was preseason so why were some getting all worked up about some of the bad/poor play we saw.

                  Now you point out you saw the same things some of US noticed.....

                  I dunno...seems like JL saw what WE initially pointed out and has similar concerns.

                  Not calling you out just possibly not understanding your thoughts....
                  It's the 10th of November, I don't expect things to be anywhere close to perfect yet. The coach may not either, but he's being proactive instead of reactive and making sure it doesn't become an epidemic. If we're sitting here mid-January and this is happening, then there's cause for concern. I saw guys doing things in an exhibition game that I would expect.
                  Onward and Upward!

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                  • #24
                    [QUOTE=dogsrus;144986]
                    Originally posted by houstontxbrave View Post
                    Honestly sometimes a coach is hardest on his best players. I truely believe Brown is one of his best players. Just get the feeling that JL/staff saw something, especially on the D side and on the boards. I did not think TB played poorly but I only got to listen, seeing it in person and then on film is completely different.



                    Wasn't JL hard on another of his best players who eventually left the program to play closer to home....
                    Dog, I really dont think that situation would have ended much differently even if JL was not hard on Granger. It is very difficult to reel in a guy who is being courted by a guy who has left, Granger had a previous recruitment and relationship with and is calling and is speaking sweet nothings into Grangers ears. That situation likely would be handled much differently today but not all blame lies on JL on that one, plenty of blame to go around for everyone to share.

                    Often the most talented does not always mean the most focused, dedicated or have the most desire. Being tough on talent I think is important, if anything to make sure talent doesnt get to head high in the clouds.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
                      It's the 10th of November, I don't expect things to be anywhere close to perfect yet. The coach may not either, but he's being proactive instead of reactive and making sure it doesn't become an epidemic. If we're sitting here mid-January and this is happening, then there's cause for concern. I saw guys doing things in an exhibition game that I would expect.

                      OK..thanks. Makes sense.

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                      • #26
                        [QUOTE=houstontxbrave;144991]
                        Originally posted by dogsrus View Post

                        Dog, I really dont think that situation would have ended much differently even if JL was not hard on Granger. It is very difficult to reel in a guy who is being courted by a guy who has left, Granger had a previous recruitment and relationship with and is calling and is speaking sweet nothings into Grangers ears. That situation likely would be handled much differently today but not all blame lies on JL on that one, plenty of blame to go around for everyone to share.

                        Often the most talented does not always mean the most focused, dedicated or have the most desire. Being tough on talent I think is important, if anything to make sure talent doesnt get to head high in the clouds.

                        I agree...well put.

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