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  • #16
    Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View Post
    I agree w/ you Houston that he will be key to our success and you can't base everything on one exhibition. That being said, I would still give the 3 PG's equal minutes as if anything, DSE outplayed both the returning starters...and that should mean something.
    Not sure he outplayed Sammy. While SM didn't shoot well, he did have 6 assists and 4 steals. DSE got burnt several times on the perimeter by Lewis' PG. Perhaps he'll find some time here and there, but I am not sure there's room for him with our backcourt depth. Of course, one injury changes all of that.

    Was glad to see DSE wasn't afraid to shoot when open.
    Onward and Upward!

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    • #17
      Had EM scored ten points, none of this conversation would be here.

      The fact is, he only shot 3 times. Let it roll.. it was an exhibition!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
        Not sure he outplayed Sammy. While SM didn't shoot well, he did have 6 assists and 4 steals. DSE got burnt several times on the perimeter by Lewis' PG. Perhaps he'll find some time here and there, but I am not sure there's room for him with our backcourt depth. Of course, one injury changes all of that.

        Was glad to see DSE wasn't afraid to shoot when open.

        Yes, and Sam did have 4 steals, but they were all off help D, which is also his weakness as well in that he leaves his man wide open.


        He gave up 15 points to his man when he was on the floor to what he scored.


        I did like the 6 assist stat but it was also accompanied by multiple turnovers and the fact that most were straight and easy to Andrew for 3's, not passes to the interior or on the break for layups so that number could very easily be much lower.

        My point here is that Sammy just needs to slow down a little bit and let the game come to him, and please, pass the ball in to Will sometimes!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by jeffsu View Post
          Had EM scored ten points, none of this conversation would be here.

          The fact is, he only shot 3 times. Let it roll.. it was an exhibition!
          I myself like Edge because of the in your face defense, but he does need to shoot more.

          He had a pretty good tournament in St. Louis and a couple good games in the CIT. He needs to build off of that.



          Also, T, I am pretty good on self-assessment, and I know I won't be getting much done today.


          After all, it is Monday.


          I just wasn't prepared to play the game today

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          • #20
            Oh, and let me just say this.


            Before anyone gets negative and thinks I don't like Sammy or am being too hard, its because he's now a Junior, and not only that, but because I know and believe that Sammy can be a better player.

            He doesn't have the most talent on the team, but if everyone took his drive and intensity to heart, we'd certainly be playing for a championship!

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            • #21
              I thought the point guard from Lewis was pretty good and very tricky. He burnt our guys several times. Good penetrator and passer. He may be a bit undersized, but I wonder how he did not get a DI scholarship?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by georgethedog View Post
                I thought the point guard from Lewis was pretty good and very tricky. He burnt our guys several times. Good penetrator and passer. He may be a bit undersized, but I wonder how he did not get a DI scholarship?
                Lots of guys shoot well in open gym style situations...


                Lots of guys also shoot well against our sagging defense...


                Also, if anyone noticed, the kid wasn't very quick, but knew how to do the Nate Funk-esque push off w/ his forearm to clear some space for his shot or a cut to get open for a shot.

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                • #23
                  Edge

                  Tornado: You're over the line on this one---I did NOT attack EM. Read what I said---"I really want EM to succeed and I'm not giving up on him"---Does this sound like an attack?
                  I believe he has some good skills however, for whatever the reason, he does not seem to bring them to bear in game situations on a consistant basis. Again, while his perimeter defense is good, he does not defend well at all against the drive. You asked what I expect of a point guard. I expect more than no assists in 23 minutes against a Divn. II team! I expect more than 1 basket in 23 minutes. Last nite I saw no improvement from last year. I truly hope you are right and I am wrong but how long can we wait to find out?

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                  • #24
                    wizard..my comment was a response to a post other than yours...go back and see...I have no problem with what you say...
                    I am bothered a bit by the comment under your post that we should get rid of EM (not even use him as backup) or we won't be winning many games.

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                    • #25
                      I think SM is better at the point right now.I m not giving up on EM.

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                      • #26
                        how good would we be if SM got injured and we decided to go without EM?
                        He is our PG of the future and we need him now but we need him to continue to develop...
                        some reports I have heard say he has been one of the best and most consistent players in the closed practices and scrimmages thus far....

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by tornado View Post
                          how good would we be if SM got injured and we decided to go without EM?
                          He is our PG of the future and we need him now but we need him to continue to develop...
                          some reports I have heard say he has been one of the best and most consistent players in the closed practices and scrimmages thus far....
                          Ok ok, but to play devil's advocate, they said the same stuff about Collins and Thompson..and Mo said that about Reggie Hall...

                          You see the point.


                          That being said, that will be the first and last time you see me compare Edge to any of them as I think he's a talented kid and before the end of the year, most will love him being out on the floor.

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                          • #28
                            One EXHIBITION does not make a season. Sim Sim Simmer down everyone. The true test comes on Friday! EM will be just fine.
                            "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
                            ??” Thomas Jefferson
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                            • #29
                              I know this was our 1st exb. in front of a crowd but not guarding the 3 point shooters has consistently hurt this team the last several years, it does not matter whether you are a d-1, d-2, d-3 or high school player if they leave a kid that can shoot at all he will make those wide open shots, (stay on your man)
                              This team has a lot more talent than any of our BU teams in the last several years but it needs to be handled better or we will not see the results we all desire.
                              Our inside players need to score more or we will not get open looks for our 3 point shooters.
                              No reason why we cannot get 16 points a game out of the center position and 16 out of the 4 position.

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                              • #30
                                I think that I will save any comments until after Friday. This game didn't mean anything and did not even come close to what we will see out in Provo. I think that the only repeat performance will be Warren getting over 20. I did call him the POY I think back in August and I stick to it! You can't really get much from this game other than EVERYONE got some PT! We will se after Friday.

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