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  • #16
    Originally posted by jasonpeoria911 View Post
    I would of been in favor of this if we had 2 exhibition games but since this was the only one, Les should of played the starters more so that they could get in rhythm and shoot better. With the exception of Brown, the starters went 5 for 17 FG, 1 for 8 on 3's, 10 fouls, and 2 turnovers. I'm sure that won't be the starting lineup come Friday but it's not exactly a confidence booster heading into one of the toughest games of the season.

    Jason

    Yeah, but I'm gathering you're not counting A-Dub?


    He IS a starter.


    The only guys who didn't distinguish themselves from the pack were the point guards. McCain got the T and Maniscalco shot the ball terribly and lost his man for wide open 3's very frequently.

    If anything, DSE proved that he should be getting MORE minutes than what he did as he showed he can play both ends of the floor.


    Also, what is the deal with Prosser? He's every bit as good as Sticks.


    Finally, is Taylor in the doghouse again? He didn't play the last 10 or so minutes and I just couldn't figure out why.


    By far the two that distinguished themselves from everyone else were Andrew and Taylor. They should be stone cold lead pipe LOCKS as starters on Friday.

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    • #17
      JL, in this am's radio show, said the greatest compliment for DSE was he is a "gamer" Solid in practice, but even better in a game.

      More interesting, was JL's mention of redshirting as something this program is now in a position to emphasize. (talking about BYU having many older players (like SS) that took their 2 year missions trip)

      I've found it odd the lack of mentions about JP this pre-season. It might be that AT met whatever goals (i.e. weight) the coaches have been asking and have to reward that. You do not really need to be more than 3 deep at center

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      • #18
        Originally posted by ph View Post
        JL, in this am's radio show, said the greatest compliment for DSE was he is a "gamer" Solid in practice, but even better in a game.

        More interesting, was JL's mention of redshirting as something this program is now in a position to emphasize. (talking about BYU having many older players (like SS) that took their 2 year missions trip)

        I've found it odd the lack of mentions about JP this pre-season. It might be that AT met whatever goals (i.e. weight) the coaches have been asking and have to reward that. You do not really need to be more than 3 deep at center
        There's no need to rush JP. From what I hear he is still adjusting to the size and speed at this level. AT has a higher ceiling at this point than JP, and 2 more years of experience. If he's showing signs of reaching that ceiling, it's time to give him a real extended shot to show it.
        Onward and Upward!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
          There's no need to rush JP. From what I hear he is still adjusting to the size and speed at this level. AT has a higher ceiling at this point than JP, and 2 more years of experience. If he's showing signs of reaching that ceiling, it's time to give him a real extended shot to show it.

          So, do we redshirt two guys then?


          I mean I don't see why we couldn't...I just would rather have Prosser available because we know what we'll get from Sam and you never know what you'll get to this point from Sticks.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View Post
            So, do we redshirt two guys then?


            I mean I don't see why we couldn't...I just would rather have Prosser available because we know what we'll get from Sam and you never know what you'll get to this point from Sticks.
            Good question, I don't know. I want Sticks to get an extended look. From what I have heard JP is still adjusting, which is fine. It might be wise for us to have him there in case of an injury though like you said, as 2 of our 3 centers have had ACL's in the past.
            Onward and Upward!

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            • #21
              If we RS anyone it will be at the SG position where we are loaded.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by SFP View Post
                If we RS anyone it will be at the SG position where we are loaded.
                Well its already been pretty widely speculated that Eastman will be a likely candidate.


                Great kid and I will be absolutely thrilled about having him around that extra year.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View Post
                  Yeah, but I'm gathering you're not counting A-Dub?He IS a starter.
                  But he didn't start the game Sunday, which I think is what the reference was towards. We have no starters yet, really.

                  Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View Post
                  Also, what is the deal with Prosser? He's every bit as good as Sticks.
                  Granted, he's a freshman, but JP seemed to "disappear" just as AT would last year for the few minutes he played. AT seemed to have a little more fire in him.

                  Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View Post
                  Finally, is Taylor in the doghouse again? He didn't play the last 10 or so minutes and I just couldn't figure out why.
                  I figure he was resting some of the players. Clearly he didn't want any to hit 25+ minutes (look at the boxscore, there's probably 5 or 6 guys with 23 or 24 minutes. No one with more. We weren't concerned with "winning" or running up the score... so why keep TB in?

                  Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View Post
                  By far the two that distinguished themselves from everyone else were Andrew and Taylor. They should be stone cold lead pipe LOCKS as starters on Friday.
                  AGREED! Love love love that those two will be solid. Glad TB had Theron last year to learn from, because he's definitely picked up on some things!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by jeffsu View Post
                    Granted, he's a freshman, but JP seemed to "disappear" just as AT would last year for the few minutes he played. AT seemed to have a little more fire in him.
                    The only thing I will say about this is that its really hard to stay focused and not "disappear" as you so put it when your main two PG's don't ever get the ball into the post.

                    Those two could learn a LOT from DSE.

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                    • #25
                      How can JP 'disappear' when he only plays 3 minutes? Seriously, some people are worrying WAY too much about this. JP is behind two 3rd year sophomores and a 6th year senior as far as post players go. There is NOTHING to be concerned about at this point with him or his development.
                      Onward and Upward!

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View Post
                        The only thing I will say about this is that its really hard to stay focused and not "disappear" as you so put it when your main two PG's don't ever get the ball into the post.

                        Those two could learn a LOT from DSE.
                        I disagree. They're doing what they're told, and are both better than DSE at just about everything at this point. Not throwing the ball inside has been a staple of the Les regime and likely will continue to be whether DSE is playing or not.
                        Onward and Upward!

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
                          I disagree. They're doing what they're told, and are both better than DSE at just about everything at this point. Not throwing the ball inside has been a staple of the Les regime and likely will continue to be whether DSE is playing or not.
                          And makes for a complete waste of Will's talent.


                          We didn't have a capable inside presence last year, but now that we have it, don't you think we should use it to our advantage?

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View Post
                            And makes for a complete waste of Will's talent.


                            We didn't have a capable inside presence last year, but now that we have it, don't you think we should use it to our advantage?
                            I definitely do, I just don't think DSE is some transcendent point guard who knows how to do that more than the other two. I said in another post that I want us to go inside more to WE and even AT. A LOT more!
                            Onward and Upward!

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
                              I definitely do, I just don't think DSE is some transcendent point guard who knows how to do that more than the other two. I said in another post that I want us to go inside more to WE and even AT. A LOT more!
                              I can't really agree w/ you though because I fully believe DSE could be a POY by his Junior year here...just needs to be put in the right situations.

                              He is by far more talented than either the other guards were when they first came in to Bradley and had better numbers than Ruff did in high school and when he first came in.


                              I have very high expectations for the kid, and I'm sure he has some for himself, thus why he was recruited by BCS schools.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View Post
                                I can't really agree w/ you though because I fully believe DSE could be a POY by his Junior year here...just needs to be put in the right situations.

                                He is by far more talented than either the other guards were when they first came in to Bradley and had better numbers than Ruff did in high school and when he first came in.


                                I have very high expectations for the kid, and I'm sure he has some for himself, thus why he was recruited by BCS schools.
                                Wow...that's pretty lofty expectations. I think if he's a starter by the time he's a junior that would be an accomplishment, he's got some pretty good players that are in front of him.
                                Onward and Upward!

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