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  • Are we that bitter about being non-BCS?

    It seems like at least once a week, this board has some post about BCS schools getting away with something and us feeling slighted.

    Is this whining just a topic for conversation or are BU/MVC really being intentionally belittled because we're not one of the big boys?

    Sadly, I don't see BU ever becoming elite enough to leave the MVC for a BCS league so why can't we just accept it?

    If we're not going to accept it, what are we looking for?

    Here are a few options I was thinking about:
    The NCAA to require X amount of games be scheduled with low-majors and mid-majors?
    The NCCA dissolves all conferences and it becomes a national scheduling free for all with no conferences?
    NCAA D1 is split similar to football with the FBS and FCS (former D1-A & D1-AA)?
    Deal with it because that's how America is, a select few have all the power and the rest have to deal with it?
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    The NCAA to require X amount of games be scheduled with low-majors and mid-majors?
    6.67%
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    The NCCA dissolves all conferences and it becomes a national scheduling free for all?
    3.33%
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    NCAA D1 is split similar to football with the FBS and FCS (former D1-A & D1-AA)?
    6.67%
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    Deal with it.
    83.33%
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    No, everyone just wants the same rule applied for every school in D-1. Yes, the BCS schools get away with more, on average, than non-BCS schools.

    That's the real problem. Some like to turn the non-BCS attention directly to BU, but in all reality, it's a problem for ALL non-BCS schools. Bradley is NOT special in that regard. It's just the easiest example to use, for obvious reasons It's just easiest and most obvious for some to use the local team as the example because they're most familiar with it.

    As for the other ideas:

    The NCAA to require X amount of games be scheduled with low-majors and mid-majors?
    0% chance of this happening, because this requires an official NCAA designation of low majors and mid majors, and that's even more corruption waiting to happen.

    The NCCA dissolves all conferences and it becomes a national scheduling free for all with no conferences?
    Won't work, because what will happen is all the top teams will have even more freedom to schedule based on agendas and team goals. Many schools would just stick with their already-natural rivals from conference play. BCS schools will use the extra versatility with their schedule to fit their agenda further, not alter the agenda to play mid-majors.

    NCAA D1 is split similar to football with the FBS and FCS (former D1-A & D1-AA)?
    A very real possibility. I think there's an actual chance FBS football will split even further to separate BCS and non-BCS, and force the schools to go through with it in all sports, not just football. I think there's a reasonable chance of that within, say, 20 years.

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    • #3
      Black will never be White but is also is not inferior...
      mid-major will never be BCS but it is time they are treated with decency and respect by media and NCAA alike

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      • #4
        My vote would have been for none of the above. Mid-Majors found a way around the system a couple of years ago by figuring out the RPI system, we must and will do the same again.
        Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

        ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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        • #5
          Originally posted by tornado View Post
          Black will never be White but is also is not inferior...
          mid-major will never be BCS but it is time they are treated with decency and respect by media and NCAA alike
          The Media is going to treat with very little respect because non bcs's do not pay the bills and/or they often if in prime time situations do not pay the bills with eye balls. IE ratings for 2006 with BU, WSU and GMason.

          I though do care deeply about the NCAA treating each and everyone of its members equally and applying all penaties for infractions equally.

          But the NCAA is at the feet of the media and the media controls the NCAA. And since money drives everything there is no way ever that any school that is non BCS will ever get equal treatment from the NCAA.

          BTW I have said for awhile now that option 3 will eventually happen. ESPN, CBS etc can forever live without MVC, Big West etc but they can not live/paybills without USC, Kansas, SEC etc.

          I have always wondered why a school in the NCAA does not sue when it is given a punishment that is different for any infraction that already has a presidence? That is I suppose another topic for another day, but the SEMO's of the world cant just say well that penalty is about right when a school like USC or Kansas has never gotten anything dropped on them for virtually any infraction and often their infraction is worse then anything SEMO could think up.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by houstontxbrave View Post
            The Media is going to treat with very little respect because non bcs's do not pay the bills and/or they often if in prime time situations do not pay the bills with eye balls. IE ratings for 2006 with BU, WSU and GMason.

            I though do care deeply about the NCAA treating each and everyone of its members equally and applying all penaties for infractions equally.

            But the NCAA is at the feet of the media and the media controls the NCAA. And since money drives everything there is no way ever that any school that is non BCS will ever get equal treatment from the NCAA.

            BTW I have said for awhile now that option 3 will eventually happen. ESPN, CBS etc can forever live without MVC, Big West etc but they can not live/paybills without USC, Kansas, SEC etc.

            I have always wondered why a school in the NCAA does not sue when it is given a punishment that is different for any infraction that already has a presidence? That is I suppose another topic for another day, but the SEMO's of the world cant just say well that penalty is about right when a school like USC or Kansas has never gotten anything dropped on them for virtually any infraction and often their infraction is worse then anything SEMO could think up.
            I doubt the NCAA would allow us to compete in any NCAA event if we sue them for not using precedence in their rulings. Although if we could get a third party to do it...

            I've been thinking I should try to get a job within the NCAA so I can give the little guys a fair chance, but that's a pipe dream lol.
            Thinking is the hardest work, that is why so few people do it. -Henry Ford

            Yeah...I've been in college for a while now and I'm pretty sure that awesomest is not a word. -Andrew E.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by houstontxbrave View Post
              The Media is going to treat with very little respect because non bcs's do not pay the bills and/or they often if in prime time situations do not pay the bills with eye balls. IE ratings for 2006 with BU, WSU and GMason.
              This. Any equitable system based on media coverage won't happen because we're not as popular. It's that simple.

              I have always wondered why a school in the NCAA does not sue when it is given a punishment that is different for any infraction that already has a presidence? That is I suppose another topic for another day, but the SEMO's of the world cant just say well that penalty is about right when a school like USC or Kansas has never gotten anything dropped on them for virtually any infraction and often their infraction is worse then anything SEMO could think up.
              This is an interesting topic. In theory, every single case presented to the NCAA has something unique about the situation, unique enough that you can't compare Case A to Case B. Now, it may be the case that the big boys are getting off easier compared to the little guys, but to be able to factually prove it in a court of law is a whole 'nother matter. Big difference between common sense and legality.

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