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  • #31
    Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
    Moderator intervention-
    OK, everyone appears to have stated their opinion- this topic is about Bradley basketball.

    Please continue your discussion by PM or email if you wish, but the last several posts are way off topic here.
    Originally posted by tornado View Post
    getting back to the topic...I will use Daniel Ruffin as an example...but there are others.
    He (Ruffin) stayed at BU, worked his way back to full eligibility and was a great get for Bradley.

    I will follow the administrators request and refrain from continuing the argument... Glad you got that last word in though!

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    • #32
      I am not nervous but I think the word is anxious!!!! We have three spots to fill and nothing as of yet??? It would be nice to hear something in the next few weeks about recruiting.

      When is the official start of practice?

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      • #33
        very, very few of the mid-majors fill all their recruiting slots this early....that's just the way it is...

        we have one verbal for 2010, and have a couple scholarships to fill......
        I'd rather have it well thought out and get them filled with quality than rush to fill with some disgruntled transfer like Fears...

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        • #34
          I'm with T on this one. Who says we have to use all 3 this year! I say quality over quantity at this point in time where the program is. Can you imagine the quality JL will recruit once the facilities are in place.
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          • #35
            All good points, remember I said anxious not nervous. I just like to see good things happen to Bradley basketball. By the way, no one has answered my question about when the official start of practice is?

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            • #36
              October 16 is the first official day of practice.

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              • #37
                Iam fully confident that we will end up with 2 good recruits to go along with John Wilkins , with the talent we have now there is no reason to be in any hurry and for any players that are thinking about playing for BU I would advise doing so now because the next several years look to be very special and you better not miss out on this opportunity of a lifetime.

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                • #38
                  There in lies the recruiting challenge for BU...With a loaded roster for the next couple of years, and assuming Wilkens and Harris arrive, it would take a pretty good player to go to BU and break into the starting lineup before their junior year.

                  I am assuming players with that degree of ability/skill would have offers from major programs, or, have the ability to go to other mid majors and start as a freshman/sophmore. I don't know if the BU program is to a point of annual success/exposure where top talent will come here knowing they have to beat out other good players right away, or, wait several years, to play much.

                  BU may have to find recruits who are ok with possibly not starting/playing a lot in years 1-2 (with a possible redshirt), but who still have the type of talent we want to see BU players have (or the talent to grow).
                  BUilding for the Future

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by AZ BU Fan View Post
                    BU may have to find recruits who are ok with possibly not starting/playing a lot in years 1-2 (with a possible redshirt), but who still have the type of talent we want to see BU players have (or the talent to grow).
                    I hope this is a problem we have. Seriously. If we have such a good team that even good/great players are afraid of cracking the lineup, then we're (hopefully!) making some waves with those players. Maybe some top finishes or NCAA appearance.

                    It's all a cycle. Once you have good players, you can do well. When you do well, you can get better caliber players... and on and on. You stay in the higher up circle. But getting that first set of "great" players in order to push the team to a new level is the tough part. That's the part I think we have going on right now. And the team sounds like its getting there

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by AZ BU Fan View Post
                      There in lies the recruiting challenge for BU...With a loaded roster for the next couple of years, and assuming Wilkens and Harris arrive, it would take a pretty good player to go to BU and break into the starting lineup before their junior year.....

                      BU may have to find recruits who are ok with possibly not starting/playing a lot in years 1-2 (with a possible redshirt), but who still have the type of talent we want to see BU players have (or the talent to grow).
                      I'm sorry but I can't really go along with this reasoning. Good players aren't afraid of competition. They all think they're good enough to get PT. Look at the rosters of Duke, Carolina, Louisville, KU and other major programs. They're loaded with McD All-Americans who are all confident in their abilities and unafraid to compete with the best. And it's not just the majors. Look at Butler, Gonzaga, Xaviar, Marquette, Nevada, CU and other top mid-majors. They don't seem to have this problem either.

                      I think BU will find what they are looking for with their last few scholies. It might be a role player; it might be a stud. Whatever the coaches see as the best fit.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by AZ BU Fan View Post
                        There in lies the recruiting challenge for BU...With a loaded roster for the next couple of years, and assuming Wilkens and Harris arrive, it would take a pretty good player to go to BU and break into the starting lineup before their junior year.

                        I am assuming players with that degree of ability/skill would have offers from major programs, or, have the ability to go to other mid majors and start as a freshman/sophmore. I don't know if the BU program is to a point of annual success/exposure where top talent will come here knowing they have to beat out other good players right away, or, wait several years, to play much.

                        BU may have to find recruits who are ok with possibly not starting/playing a lot in years 1-2 (with a possible redshirt), but who still have the type of talent we want to see BU players have (or the talent to grow).
                        I think there are still opportunities for the right player. Either a big guard, or a true center/Power forward. I think most of the big guys we have coming in are good shooters/passers who can play comfortably with other players. I think a big guard who can handle and shoot could allow us to maximize a height advantage. And as of now I think Taylor Brown is a good rebounder, other than that I have to see others play to know if we need a rebounder. I think Milos,Jordan,Taylor,John Wilkins,and Harris all have a finesse and outside or at least mid range game that can be used at the 2,3, or 4 position.

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                        • #42
                          B4L

                          BU doesn't have the recent record of any of the schools you mentioned where a top recruit knows he can compete for playing time right away, and if he doesn't make it, know the program will win confernce, go to NCAA/NIT, get on tv etc until he gets a chance. Now, if BU achieves the consistency of the teams you brought up, top recruits will want to go their and try themselves against what they perceive as the best.

                          I still think BU is in a tough position right now to get 2-3 more top tier recruits until they achieve some more consistent success...I'd like to think there are fewer players out there who could beat out the players we have on our roster, or coming on board, who would consider playing at BU vs Major Conferences or top tier Mid Majors. Hence the challenge.

                          Didn't say it would be impossible to find these players, but think the staff at BU will be challenged...All the recruits I have read about so far on this site have chosen to go elsewhere...
                          BUilding for the Future

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by tornado View Post
                            as for Smith...is he still at ISU?

                            I suspect you know he is not, thus "eligible" or not (and there was talk that he'd stay and be back on scholarship in 2009-2010) he didn't hang around and would have had to pack his bags, right??
                            Originally posted by tornado View Post
                            but he was recruited there, unpacked his stuff, then packed it back up and went elsewhere when he found he was not going to get a scholarship.

                            To quote Lee Corso..."NOT SO FAST MY FRIEND"... looks like he will be "re-packing" those bags to come BACK to ISU...

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