NCAA Allows Nebraska to have 14 Scholarship players!

[tornado]

Nebraska ended up signing too many players and now has 14 they have offered and signed to scholarships, and even though the NCAA only allows 13, Nebraska asked for a waiver...and got it!

Sure there may be some odd or unusual circumstances, but this is virtually unprecedented...and I suspect would only occur at a BCS school.

http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=20&SPID=24&DB_OEM_ID=100&ATCLID=204785554

when asked how he could have miscalculated and ended up giving out too many scholarships, the Nebraska coach, Doc Sadler answered...
"we lost count.."

http://www.omaha.com/article/20090824/SPORTS01/708249833

[thefish7]

What the &(*#????

[SFP]

Besides the scholarship number waiver they even had a European club player become eligible this year. WOW what a bunch of tools they are!

[real fan]

Just plain rediculous, sure they could not count to 13 , now other bcs schools will also try and get away with this tactic.

[AZ BU Fan]

Apparently the NCAA did a very late about face on the eligibility of a NU recruit from Europe they had previously offed a scholarship to and who signed a LOI with NU. Since NU thought this recruit would be ineligible, they then offered that scholarship to another recruit.

NCAA felt they were at fault for the screw up and the solution was to allow NU 14 scholarship players this year as long as one redshirts this year.

One of their 14 scholarship players will be on a medical redshirt this season, leaving them with 13 scholarship players available to play.

Problem goes away next year when they go back to 13 total scholarship players.

[tornado]

but it is still a distinct advantage if they are allowed 14 while everyone else gets 13...
and it's not that they have anyone I think I'd want at BU.....and it's also a slap to all those schools who were stuck in the exact same situation, but then let a kid go because they didn't have a scholarship available, or who had to ask one of their kids to give up their scholarship as MSU just did to Jarvis Varnado...

http://dimemag.com/2009/08/nations-leading-shot-blocker-gives-up-his-scholarship/

woulda been nice last year while BU had two starters lost for the entire season with surgery, that we could have grabbed an extra body like Taylor Brown at a juco exposure event....but of course that's a laughable concept because the NCAA would never allow such a break to BU.

[AZ BU Fan]

I think the NCAA did the right thing (for once) in this case for the players involved.

I also TOTALLY agree with you Tornado the NCAA should be much more consistent with the application of their rules, and the exceptions they allow, with all their Div I member schools....

The way the NCAA jerked around BU and John Wilkins' eligibility comes to mind...

[tornado]

Bingo--

[FarmerClone]

Nebraska has signed 25 players in the last four classes, I could see how Doc could lose count. My Cyclones have had terrible turnover yet have only signed 21. Iowa State has had players leave for many crazy reasons but most all appeared to be of their own accord. Doc has brought players in and asked others to leave. Many that left were not wanting to. Now the NCAA rewards Doc for this behavior. Very interesting decision on their part.

[houstontxbrave]

Nebraska has signed 25 players in the last four classes, I could see how Doc could lose count. My Cyclones have had terrible turnover yet have only signed 21. Iowa State has had players leave for many crazy reasons but most all appeared to be of their own accord. Doc has brought players in and asked others to leave. Many that left were not wanting to. Now the NCAA rewards Doc for this behavior. Very interesting decision on their part.

Exactly how difficult is it to have a spreadsheet or a huge board with all the names of your players and their status. There is no way a huge D1 program like Nebraska, loses count. If that is their defense, then I guess dogs really can eat homework.

There is absolutely no way ever that if SIU or heck even Creighton were going to try and pull this that the NCAA would essentially look the other way and allow it. Only at a BCS. More good work by the NCAA.

Maybe Shaunguth needs to contact Nebraska and help them out.

[TheAsianSensation]

I mean, if the NCAA screwed up and ruled the player ineligible, then eligible, then does a kid have to lose a scholarship because the NCAA screwed up? I don't mind the concept of this decision since the other result would've been that a player that thought he had a scholarship doesn't have one anymore.


But if you're going by that line of thinking, why did you just punish Memphis for using Rose when it's the NCAA's fault for making Rose eligible and telling Memphis he could be used?


Consistency. The only thing any of us want with a governing body of the sport is consistency in the application of the rules. The NCAA is a farking joke.

[shaunguth]

Exactly how difficult is it to have a spreadsheet or a huge board with all the names of your players and their status. There is no way a huge D1 program like Nebraska, loses count. If that is their defense, then I guess dogs really can eat homework.

There is absolutely no way ever that if SIU or heck even Creighton were going to try and pull this that the NCAA would essentially look the other way and allow it. Only at a BCS. More good work by the NCAA.

Maybe Shaunguth needs to contact Nebraska and help them out.

Yeah.....I don't know how you can "lose count" of such a thing! However, I've tried keeping up with some of the other Valley schools and have a hard enough time keeping track of the walk-ons. I'll have to pass on the Nebraska scholarship grid!

[tornado]

Here's one bit of info that's even more surprising...
that Nebraska ALREADY had 14 guys on scholarship, and this last act by the NCAA actually gives them 15 -
just a week ago...Nebraska moved one of their scholarship players to "Medical Exemption" status...which allows the school to keep Chris Balham but NOT have his scholarship count agains their total!
(This is what ISU took when they kept Mike Vandello on scholarship for his senior year but his scholarship didn't count against their limit of 13.)
It is a reasonably fair NCAA action, but it again DOES give the school a little advantage that those who hold to the 13-scholarship limit don't get.
"Balham will remain on scholarship..but will not count toward NU's scholarship limit."

http://www.huskers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=20&SPID=24&DB_OEM_ID=100&atclid=204780690

Now, the NCAA even allows Nebraska ANOTHER scholarship break....in giving them a 14th scholarship for active players.

let's face it.....along the lines of what FarmerClone is saying....Doc Sadler has NOT made life easy for the guys at NCAA.

Doc Sadler has brought in dozens of marginally eligible players with bad grades, and overseas pro histories, that have made the NCAA work overtime to try to figure out all that mess and see who is and who is not qualified.
the last two big guys...Christian Standhardinger and Chris Niemann are really German PRO players who are both well into their 20's before even entering college because they HAVE indeed already been playing professional basketball overseas. That's why they've both been docked NUMEROUS games as a penalty, but Doc must still think they are difference-makers, so he keeps going after them.
Sadler has also brought in 10 current players (as well an many of the ones who have left) who are juco transfers, transfers from other colleges (even DII's) or prep schoolers with known academic issues.
Dave Reynolds would have a field day with this roster writing about too many jucos!

And yet...despite all the shenanigans, and all the breaks they are getting from NCAA...Nebraska hasn't finished above .500 in the Big 12 since the middle of the Bill Clinton era!

[FarmerClone]

I was actually kidding about seriously believing Doc lost count. He has had massive turnover at Nebraska and continues to oversign and work his roster down to 13 after the fact by getting rid of the players he feels are the most dispensable.

In regards to Niemann and Standhardinger being "pros", they are only pros in the sense they played on the same club team that Lucca Staiger did. On this team, two of the team members are paid room and board while the rest are not. Yet the NCAA has recently viewed this as a massive offense and stripped and entire season from the player even though they personally never received any benefits. That penalty, while legitimate in regards to the actual rule seems to severe in reality to me and seeing Standhardinger only get a semester penalty instead of a full season is a step in the right direction in my opinion.

I am not opposed to the NCAA issuing this exemption for Nebraska if they did indeed rule Standhardinger ineligible before the Huskers added their last roster addition, but it opens a huge can of worms and as we have seen with the NCAA, I am sure they will be anything but consistent.

[tornado]

I was actually kidding ...

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http://www.omahasteakhouse.com/