Most Wins and Most Tourney wins in the Valley

[tornado]

Just for comparison as the 2009-2010 season is drawing near......
Here are the Valley teams' TOTAL wins and Post-season tournament wins over the past four seasons


Here are the schools listed alphabetically with their total wins and post-season wins...

Team....................Total Wins.........Post-season Wins
Bradley.......................86 ....................10
Creighton....................91.......................3
Drake..........................74...................... 0
Evansville...................50.......................0
ISU.............................73................... ...1
Indiana St...................52.......................0
MSU............................72.................... ..2
SIU.............................82................... ...3
UNI.............................82................... ...0
Wichita St....................71......................3

[Braves4Life]

How can that be tornado?! How in the world can those under-acheiving Bradley Braves under Jim Les have the second most number of wins and the most post season wins?!

Oh, I know I know. We consistently play in those second rate post season tournaments against The Little Sisters for the Poor. By the way, don't the other Valley teams have the same opportunity to be invited?

[tornado]

B4L, I don't consider Usain Bolt to be anything special, after all, I was not invited and never had the chance to prove who is better!

[Bradleyguy10]

By the way, don't the other Valley teams have the same opportunity to be invited?

Ummmm no...not when they are getting invited to the NCAA and NIT tournament.

Say what you want about us who think it's completely pointless to point out post season wins..all you are doing is celebrating mediocrity. By all means go ahead, but stop attacking the people that happen to think its nothing to brag about getting in (and not winning) the CBI and whatever other tournament we were just in. It's sad that I'm a fan of Bradley went to those games and still don't remember the name of the tournament...was it CIT.com I really don't remember. Basically what you are saying is you'd rather win these "post season" games than get into the NCAA or NIT and not win a game. How is that even possible? How could anyone think like that? Congratulations to Bradley's success given the hands we've been dealt with injuries, etc., but we have been mediocre. Time to step up and deal with it and stop hiding behind stats..it's ridiculous and embarrassing. I would never go to an ISU fan and say hey we're better because we have more post season wins than you do in the past 2 years...they would call me an id*ot and laugh at me...and I would not blame them.

[shaunguth]

I would never go to an ISU fan and say hey we're better because we have more post season wins than you do in the past 2 years...they would call me an id*ot and laugh at me...and I would not blame them.

You might have a better argument if you went to an isu fan and said we're better because we beat you 56-52 without our best player.

[shaunguth]

By the way, don't the other Valley teams have the same opportunity to be invited?

I'm pretty sure they do. However, I'm sure they're above accepting the invitation to play in such mediocre tournaments. I know some fans of one school that don't think too highly of these tournaments. Those same fans are also proud of their basketball program not "pimping" themselves out to the "big boys" like Michigan State and accepting a 2-for-1 deal.

[MacabreMob]

I would be happier if Bradley lost 1st round in the NCAA than racking up wins in any other tourney (NIT included). Yet understand, I am not saying I would be happier to see Bradley lose than win... I am just saying I'd rather see Bradley playing in the NCAA than anywhere else. Now... to T's point... facts ARE facts. Therefore, I am proud of Bradley's post-season win total no matter where they get them.

[it's boogie time]

Unfortunately, the Valley hasn't had any postseason wins of significance in the last two years. The top teams need to have some good non-conference wins to get back on the basketball map.

[electricmayhem]

Unfortunately, the Valley hasn't had any postseason wins of significance in the last two years. The top teams need to have some good non-conference wins to get back on the basketball map.

I know moral victories don't count, but UNI played Purdue tough as a #12 seed last year - but you are right. I think the league will be up this year as a whole, so we should see some good performances.

[Braves4Life]

Those same fans are also proud of their basketball program not "pimping" themselves out to the "big boys" like Michigan State and accepting a 2-for-1 deal.

Then those fans are just stupid! Teams like BU, unfortunately, have no choice but to "pimp" themselves out to play schools like MSU. I'd rather see BU do this with a "big boy" than play a "no name" school. Plus, look at the fan excitement level that playing an MSU brought to BU and PCC.

[Braves4Life]

You might have a better argument if you went to an isu fan and said we're better because we beat you 56-52 without our best player.

EXACTLY! I'll take shaun to fight my battles with the ISU fans. He just shut them up with this logic!

[leebiddlecome]

By the way, don't the other Valley teams have the same opportunity to be invited?

B4L---FYI. All teams are "invited". It's the ones with the cash to pay for games that get in the event. I don't think many fans understand how these tournaments work.

[SFP]

B4L---FYI. All teams are "invited". It's the ones with the cash to pay for games that get in the event. I don't think many fans understand how these tournaments work.

It's just great to know that BU has the fan base to support these types of events. That in itself says something very positive about the program.

[leebiddlecome]

It's just great to know that BU has the fan base to support these types of events. That in itself says something very positive about the program.

No doubt. The program has had that for its existence. Nothing new under this regime. Bradley has always drawn very, very well--regardless of the coach. That says something about the loyal fan base.

[shaunguth]

No doubt. The program has had that for its existence. Nothing new under this regime. Bradley has always drawn very, very well--regardless of the coach. That says something about the loyal fan base.

It also says a lot about other fan bases!