Bradley's Brazil Tour vs. Professional Teams, Can BU Win?

[BradleyBrave]

I am more concerned about BU beating teams in the MVC this year.

[tornado]

OK, to answer the ?, I don't know nor do I care as long as BU plays hard As I said JL and the coachs knew what they are getting into. As for excuses there are some on this site who looks for any excuse they can come up with when BU loses and does not play well Look, lets go play ball with who ever, gain some experiences, do some team bonding and come home injury free

you confuse in depth analysis and discussion with excuses


BTW-- every one of these pro teams has a full time, salaried coach, they work out and practice year round, they play games in fall, winter, spring, and summer sessions, and they are made up of numerous players who are in their upper 20's and 30's.
All these are factors to differentiate from the usual foreign tour opponent who are NOT pro teams.

I have no idea what measure to use in deciding if they are good or not.
Like I said, the only thing I suppose would be accepted is if the Brazilian pro teams would regularly play home and home games vs. American teams,
but of course that does not happen.
These teams are clearly a major difference from the type of teams EVERY other D-I school plays on their foreign tours.
PLUS....these may be exhibition games to us, but to the Brazilian opponents, this is a TOURNAMENT, and pro teams don't play tournaments like exhibition games!
They will play all out to win, while we don't even have half our team with us and available.
As I said, I feel these teams will be good competition...better than we'd get playing unrecognizable Canadian colleges, or rag-tag teams of locals in Jamaica or rural Italy.

But I am prepared for the inevitable...
if BU wins all five or wins them convincingly then we'll hear how poor the opponents were.
And as we saw last year...if BU should lose even one game, then we'll still be hearing jabs about it a year later!

http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?p=137141#post137141

[dogsrus]

Yes BU can win games on this tour.

I think they will hang and be competitive with all of these teams.

I am concerned about the lack of depth and the number of games.

But I really dont care about the outcome of any of the games. I am concerned about this team jelling, coming together and developing a strong bond. I am also wanting this team to learn whatever offenses and defenses JL and staff have in mind.

By Nov very few will know anything about the games or the results, but the way this team handles itself versus BYU will likely be a direct reflection of this tour.

I have to agree....can they win, I suppose.... but the truth is nobody REALLY knows as none of us has a clue about the competition . Like Houston stated though its really NOT about the winning and more about jelling, finding your weaknesses and getting better as a unit.

Stay healthy, have some fun and learn from this trip. I'd take 0-6 vs excellent competition VS 6-0 against TOTAL cupcakes. Sure we'd all "feel better" with 6-0 but this trip is not about how the fans feel.

Its preseason....its about learning.

[Out of Balance]

you confuse in depth analysis and discussion with excuses


BTW-- every one of these pro teams has a full time, salaried coach, they work out and practice year round, they play games in fall, winter, spring, and summer sessions, and they are made up of numerous players who are in their upper 20's and 30's.
All these are factors to differentiate from the usual foreign tour opponent who are NOT pro teams.

I have no idea what measure to use in deciding if they are good or not.
Like I said, the only thing I suppose would be accepted is if the Brazilian pro teams would regularly play home and home games vs. American teams,
but of course that does not happen.
These teams are clearly a major difference from the type of teams EVERY other D-I school plays on their foreign tours.
PLUS....these may be exhibition games to us, but to the Brazilian opponents, this is a TOURNAMENT, and pro teams don't play tournaments like exhibition games!
They will play all out to win, while we don't even have half our team with us and available.
As I said, I feel these teams will be good competition...better than we'd get playing unrecognizable Canadian colleges, or rag-tag teams of locals in Jamaica or rural Italy.

But I am prepared for the inevitable...
if BU wins all five or wins them convincingly then we'll hear how poor the opponents were.
And as we saw last year...if BU should lose even one game, then we'll still be hearing jabs about it a year later!
http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread...141#post137141

Me confused Probably Hell I have a hard time finding my way home at times After reading the above (in bold) I really am confused, no excuse, just confused I am just kidding you, as I know where you are with everything here I am just hoping for a good awarding and safe trip for BU

[dogsrus]

But I am prepared for the inevitable...
if BU wins all five or wins them convincingly then we'll hear how poor the opponents were.
And as we saw last year...if BU should lose even one game, then we'll still be hearing jabs about it a year later!
http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread...141#post137141

Who cares.....I'm sure other fans on other sites are prepared for the inevitable jabs some take about their weak schedules, players speeding tickets and so on and so forth.


As Bradleybrave alluded to....its the MVC wins that are all that matters.

Most of us realize that this trip is NOT about the W or the L.......

[tornado]

speaking of those court dates, dogs....have you seen the latest??
PM me if interested.......

[shaunguth]

As Bradleybrave alluded to....its the MVC wins that are all that matters.

And of course the potential win on November 28.

[tornado]

More evidence that basketball is strong in Brazil...

the Brazil National team (ranked 18th in the world) just knocked off the Aussies, who are ranked 10th.

http://www.watoday.com.au/breaking-news-sport/boomers-go-down-to-brazil-7471-20090802-e5qw.html

http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/even/rank/p/rankMen.html

scroll to the bottom here and watch video.
Click Here

[tornado]

One more day!!

The Braves leave for Brazil tomorrow..........

Here is the logo for the tourney, but I really don't see much coverage yet...




Here's one Brazilian article

http://eptv.globo.com/esportes/esportes_interna.aspx?266253

here's a translation from Portugese...and it tells you to check out the video...
so if anyone speaks or understands Portugese, tell us what they say!


San Carlos and 9th Pirassununga receive EPTV Cup of Basketball

Event is from 12 to 15 August and will have international participant
03/08/2009 - 14:41

San Carlos and Pirassununga receive 12 to 15 August the 9th Cup EPTV of
Basketball. For the first time the tournament will have the participation of the
team Bradley Braves of Illinois, USA, and 8 times for cities in the region.

The tournament began in Santa Cruz das Palmeiras in 2001 and currently is
the most traditional of the state of S??o Paulo.

Check out the complete program:

9th COPA EPTV DE BASKETBALL
Challenge International USA X BRASIL

- 12, 13, 14 and 15 August 2009;
- San Carlos and Pirassununga;

- Group 1 San Carlos
Araraquara, Paulistano, Bauru, Bradley Braves (Illinois, USA)

- Group 2 Pirassununga
Assis, XV de Piracicaba, S??o Jos?© dos Campos, S??o Jos?© do Rio Pardo

Wednesday (12)
Gym Milton Olaio Son - San Carlos
18h - Araraquara x Paulistano
20h - Bauru x Bradley Braves

Fitness Club Pirassununga - Pirassununga
18h - XV de Piracicaba x S??o Jos?© dos Campos
20h - Assisi x S??o Jos?© do Rio Pardo

Thursday (13)
Gym Milton Olaio Son - San Carlos
18h - Paulistano x Bauru
20h - Bradley Braves x Araraquara

Fitness Club Pirassununga - Pirassununga
18h - Sao Jose dos Campos x S??o Jos?© do Rio Pardo
20h-x XV de Piracicaba Assisi

Friday (14)
Gym Milton Olaio Son - San Carlos
18h - Araraquara Bauru x
20h - Bradley Braves x Paulistano

Fitness Club Pirassununga - Pirassununga
18h - Sao Jose do Rio Pardo x XV de Piracicaba
20h - Assisi x S??o Jos?© dos Campos

Saturday (15)
Gym Milton Olaio Fillho - San Carlos
15:30 - 3 X 3 GROUP 1 GROUP 2 - Decision 5th place
17:30 - 2 X 2 GROUP 1 GROUP 2 - Decision 3rd
19.30 - 1 X 1 GROUP 1 GROUP 1 - Decision Title

Check out the video:

[tornado]

so far, 3-0...I'd say the answer is thus far a "yes"

[planaria]

The last two were really impressive victories, but I dont think is fair include Fluminense game.

That was a Sub19 team, who use to lose by big margins (70+ points) when face Flamengo in Rio de Janeiro State tournaments.

I??m preety sure Braves hold themselves for that score.

[Chico]

who is doing what you're asking us not to do?
I see no excuses...but then I did pose a question - one that neither you nor anyone else has even taken a crack at...
...can anyone name a single time a college team went abroad and played PROFESSIONAL TEAMS?
Simple question...but obviously nobody has an answer....
Everyone else goes and plays rag-tag amateur and club teams, and rarely they play teams that might have a mix of pros.
BUT I couldn't find where anyone actually played a full tour of nothing BUT professional teams.

I don't have an answer, but I doubt Bradley is the first team ever to go abroad and play professional teams.

[tornado]

Chico...I have said that I am unable to find a SINGLE example of a team going out of the country and playing nothing BUT professional teams.
If you know of an example, please give it...but this thread has been up since more than a couple weeks ago...and nobody yet has come up with such an example.
A few teams have played SOME pro opponents (often losing those games), but they also played some club teams and amateurs. Bradley is playing ALL pro opponents, and some pretty good ones at that, and I am certain that such a tour is very, very rare if it's ever happened at all!

[MacabreMob]

So then how does Bradley get into such a rare event?

Just wondering.

Is it the "wave of the future", did Bradley have an "IN" connection, or is it just luck (good or bad)?

[tornado]

BU are the bold leaders and the best innovators among D-I...
plus recall much of this was arranged in an outstanding fashion before the fine AD left his post......