If this is your first visit, feel free to
check out the Frequently Asked Questions by clicking this
LINK.
You are welcome as a guest, but you will have to REGISTER
before you can post messages.
To register, click the link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.
Welcome to BradleyFans.com! Visitors are welcome, but we encourage you to sign up and register as a member. It's free and takes only a few seconds. Just click on the link to Register at the top right of the page, and follow instructions.
If you have any problems or questions, click on the link at the bottom right of the page to Contact Us.
All I know is that we had better win some of our 'name' games in the non-con or it's gonna be RPI h-ll for us.
After scouring a number of the BCS schedules that have come out, I haven't seen our name on any of them (unless there were some today) that we aren't already aware of.
That said, I'm still willing to wait and see what the final product will be before getting all worked up about it.
I actually think Wofford and Idaho State will be very good teams, and you get extra credit for Idaho State because they are recognized as a very difficult style to face.
I also think the way it's shaping up this could be the best (or at least most intriguing) start-to-finish non-con we've had since JL took over. (NIU game aside, of course)
I am pretty sure if it was... it would be happening alot more... JMO though...
Right now it's probably not, but that's because schedules are rapidly filling up. Ten years ago, such a practice was usually an act of desperation. But as alluded to the other problems, we are seeing fewer multi-year deals year over year. . .so as that trend continues and more schools start looking to do this, it will get easier.
Squirrel...: You are not quite correct in your contention that ADs have little to do with scheduling. I have had very recent conversations with former ADs regarding scheduling and have learned from them that scheduling is generally a 50/50 situation between the AD and the coach. In some instances, coaches have tried to take over scheduling but most ADs strongly resist this, in lieu of sharing scheduling. In any event, the RESPONSIBILITY for the schedule and FINAL APPROVAL of the schedule rests with the AD according to the ADs I have recently talked to.
Squirrel...: You are not quite correct in your contention that ADs have little to do with scheduling. I have had very recent conversations with former ADs regarding scheduling and have learned from them that scheduling is generally a 50/50 situation between the AD and the coach. In some instances, coaches have tried to take over scheduling but most ADs strongly resist this, in lieu of sharing scheduling. In any event, the RESPONSIBILITY for the schedule and FINAL APPROVAL of the schedule rests with the AD according to the ADs I have recently talked to.
If you're talking bottom line and approval, of course the AD is involved. I'm talking the actual meat and potatoes of scheduling.
Yes, it is also pretty standard for the AD to set rough guidelines for which the coach is encouraged to work within. But other than that, at successful basketball schools, the AD is generally removed from the process, as well they should be unless the coach is completely irresponsible in scheduling.
The day-to-day tasks of actual scouting for potential opponents, targeting the ones you want to play, and setting the dates. . .is all the coaches.
So if you are going to actively complain about the opponents, those complaints should be appropriately placed.
I can also assure you that BU's interim AD is 1000% less restrictive than our previous AD.
AD has at most, very little to do with scheduling.
I believe the AD at schools such as Bradley have a LOT to do with the scheduling....or at least that's what I have been told by AD's at schools like Bradley...
since the coaches are expected to be on the road recruiting for long stretches of the summer...I can't imagine they are also working on the schedules from their hotel rooms in Vegas...
The BCS guys don't want to schedule BU, just ask DePaul, Cincy, Providence, etc...
since the coaches are expected to be on the road recruiting for long stretches of the summer...I can't imagine they are also working on the schedules from their hotel rooms in Vegas...
.
You can bet like hell they are. Or at least I would hope they are. Otherwise they won't be in the biz long.
Reading about Siena's problems--which they are being quite public with, and I think that is a good thing--one of their assistant coaches was at a recruiting event and the coach sitting next to him just found out a game fell through because of a date conflict. The two coaches spent the rest of the morning trying to see if they could put a game together. It didn't work out. But don't think for a second they aren't working all possibilities while they're on the road.
I also heard from an AD of a BCS school that they are the ones that negotiate and call other schools to make out the final schedule. That coaches sometimes do have the tie ins to get a particular school on their schedule but mostly they do not have the resources or time to sustain those relationships, especially a school like BU. So if you are saying that JL is 100% responsible for our schedule I'd bet the house he is not. I'd further bet that KK had a lot to do with our past schedule. If you think our schedule is weaker this year then last just wait until next year where the KK effect is gone. Like a good sales person it take building and maintaining relationships to build out a schedule that makes sense for your school.
"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
??” Thomas Jefferson
sigpic
Squirrel...: Again, you are not quite correct. Believe me when I say this comes right out of the horses mouth! The actual work of scheduling is normally a shared duty between the AD and the coach. This shared scheduling situation has in past years been spelled out specifically in coaching contracts after discussion and negotiation. Also again, the AD has the RESPONSIBILITY for scheduling as well as the FINAL APPROVAL. He can, and has, changed proposed schedules in the past. This is one reason why it is so important to have an AD who has established Divn.I networking contacts and good personal relationships with other Divn.I ADs.
You also are not quite correct, either wizard. I can point to more than dozens of coaches who rightfully have absolute authority on their scheduling.
I am not saying you are wrong, and I'm not wrong either. The truth lies somewhere in the middle. . .
Again, I think you're talking about the AD establishing the framework for the schedule and guidelines within the coach works.
Certainly the lining up of facilities and contractual matters are the AD. . .
But the AD pretty much leaves it up to the coach to designate opponents and target the dates, i.e. actual scheduling.
ADs who are involved in the scheduling (this is where I'm agreeing it does happen at a number of places) generally cause a number of the scheduling problems people always complain about.
they might have authority but they aren't necessarily the ones doing the legwork, the calls, the arrangements, getting the contracts signed, checking available dates, and going through the middlemen to line up arrangements at the arena.
Actually, it's all solved by the Scheduling Fairy. He comes flying into the office of the AD and the coach (that's right, he can clone himself), looks at every D-1 team, and assembles a massive list of all schools and all available dates in his mind alone. He then sprinkles his fairy dust all over his invisible weightless super-computer to generate all possible permutations of schedules, and brainwashes the AD and coach pick the right games using more magical pixie dust. He faxes all papers that needs to be signed by both schools - using just his mind. He also brainwashes all arenas to be made available for the correct dates, gets all the TV contracts set up, invented the RPI, and lives inside the skull of Digger Phelps. However, rumors of him reviving Dick Vitale from the core of the earth many years ago are unsubstantiated.
Actually, it's all solved by the Scheduling Fairy. He comes flying into the office of the AD and the coach (that's right, he can clone himself), looks at every D-1 team, and assembles a massive list of all schools and all available dates in his mind alone. He then sprinkles his fairy dust all over his invisible weightless super-computer to generate all possible permutations of schedules, and brainwashes the AD and coach pick the right games using more magical pixie dust. He faxes all papers that needs to be signed by both schools - using just his mind. He also brainwashes all arenas to be made available for the correct dates, gets all the TV contracts set up, invented the RPI, and lives inside the skull of Digger Phelps. However, rumors of him reviving Dick Vitale from the core of the earth many years ago are unsubstantiated.
C'mon, get it right, people.
Is that the schedule fairy of the World's Most Interesting Man?
Tweet
Comment