Iowa fans attack player's father on their message boards

[tornado]

Here's what happens when a player's father gets involved with a couple dopes on a message board...
he identifies himself as one of the players' father, and then a few posters go after him and label him with some very uncomplimentary terms...
...it turns into a long uncomfortable argument about whether the poster/father's kid is NBA an caliber player, with know-nothing posters
flaming on the guy and his kid (one of the better Iowa players)

http://iowa.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=803&tid=123901140&mid=123901140&sid=940&style=2

I am so thankful our posters have a little more class than this...

[BU RICK]

That was an interesting thread to read Tornado. I side with the father. I'm glad we have nothing going on like that at BradleyFans. Thanks for what you and others do to stop that stuff

But that doesn't mean we can't be unhappy and post about our players after a bad game, they have to have 'thick skin', it's the nature of that kind of scholarship. And I know you know that and let it happen to a certain degree, which is good. It's the learning process of what's going to happen when you get out of college. You have to learn how to handle criticism.

Edit: after re-reading that thread a little slower this evening I think I agree with most of the posters over there. If he is truely his father, and I guess there is some doubt about it, why would he talk and represent himself the way he does? So I take back that I side with the father, I know I wouldn't have wanted my dad to talk that way.

And I'm glad we have better moderators and don't have to read that kind of stuff on our site. Go Braves!

[Braves4Life]

Thank God that kind of BS isn't allowed here. Props to our Mods

[tornado]

I can tell you that there are players and players' families who view and even occasionally post on BradleyFans, although none make themselves so openly known....
thus is would benefit us all to speak in the same fashion you'd speak if you knew the kids' families were present in the room, and be careful not to say things that are unfair, or "poorly worded".

Maybe the old adage that "if you can't say something good then..." holds here in regard to the BU kids...

we allow a little more leeway in discussions of non-BU kids, but even then we should only be discussing their performance, and not hit so hard on their abilities, limitations, and lack of potential.

[Nacho]

we allow a little more leeway in discussions of non-BU kids, but even then we should only be discussing their performance, and not hit so hard on their abilities, limitations, and lack of potential.

Or off the court issues???

[FarmerClone]

Here's what happens when a player's father gets involved with a couple dopes on a message board...
he identifies himself as one of the players' father, and then a few posters go after him and label him with some very uncomplimentary terms...
...it turns into a long uncomfortable argument about whether the poster/father's kid is NBA an caliber player, with know-nothing posters
flaming on the guy and his kid (one of the better Iowa players)

http://iowa.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=803&tid=123901140&mid=123901140&sid=940&style=2

I am so thankful our posters have a little more class than this...

I don't have a dog in this fight but Tucker's dad is a odd IMO. He constantly flies off the handle about things he sees as supposed jabs towards his son. Last year he guaranteed that there was not academic issues with his son and then he was declared ineligible. After his son was arrested for public intox or something, he went postal on the board about people claiming that he should spend more time studying and less time at the bars. Now he claims his son is an NBA player. He COULD be right, but it is far more likely he is wrong and someone disagreeing with him is not a slam towards his son. He needs to simply step away from the board and leave it alone.

[FutureBrave2013]

I think it'd probably be wise if parents stayed away from message boards especially if they overly sensitive to criticism to their son. It doesn't excuse the behavior of internet punks but it's going to happen and if they are going to read it they better be able to take it.

[PTownHawkeye]

I don't have a dog in this fight but Tucker's dad is a odd IMO. He constantly flies off the handle about things he sees as supposed jabs towards his son. Last year he guaranteed that there was not academic issues with his son and then he was declared ineligible. After his son was arrested for public intox or something, he went postal on the board about people claiming that he should spend more time studying and less time at the bars. Now he claims his son is an NBA player. He COULD be right, but it is far more likely he is wrong and someone disagreeing with him is not a slam towards his son. He needs to simply step away from the board and leave it alone.

I read the Iowa Rivals board on a daily basis and can agree that what FarmerClone said is correct. Tucker's father has been very inconsistent with the accuracy of the information he has been giving over the past year. The only thing he has been consistently accurate about is the fact that Tucker has not transferred, despite rampant rumors early this year.

I have been following this thread for the past several days since it began. The fascinating thing about it is that of the 2 main people involved besides Tucker's father, 1 is an Iowa St fan, and the other is the most outspoken poster on that board....the type who only posts to get a rise out of other posters and who would be banned here at BF within minutes for good reason.

[LG281]

Having only read that thread I have to say that the kid's (supposed) father did more trash talking and bashing than anyone else.

I mean how many kids are on a college basketball team's roster? How many schools are there? How many guys are drafted each year?

Statistically speaking, the probability of making it to the NBA isn't that great.

[squirrelgotdead]

I think it'd probably be wise if parents stayed away from message boards especially if they overly sensitive to criticism to their son. It doesn't excuse the behavior of internet punks but it's going to happen and if they are going to read it they better be able to take it.

Could not agree more. As a general rule of thumb, the families of athletes should stay away from these types environments. Nothing good can come of it.

If they want to read the accolades fine, but understand for every accolade the potential is greater for their to be harsh and maybe unnecessary criticism.

It's a fact of everyday life that is not immune to message boards.

[SFP]

We have a few family members that post here and I like the inside scoop we receive occasionally. I just make sure when I post something about a player that I would say it in front of the player without a problem. Some may disagree but openly flogging college players for their game, while they give it their all, is just plain wrong. I do not mind showing a bit of displeasure when they are not working hard enough to improve their game. They are under scholarship and it is their job to give it their all. Some even on this site believe that because they are on scholarship it opens them up to all types of criticism. I just simply do not believe in that school of thought regardless of where they go to school. Criticism of bad character though is open to anyone regardless.

[tornado]

in the summer league game last night, Anthony Tucker seemed to make a statement...
he scored 35 points--

but as noted elsewhere....something funny goes on in this league...
Could it be lack of defense?
Do they have the 3-pt arc at 15 feet??
check out the 3-pt shooting leaders after the first 7 games...
THIRTEEN different players are hitting at least 44% of their 3-pt FG attempts....
and some of these guys are attempting 10+ attempts per game and STILL keeping their pcts. at 50%


Player....3PFGM 3PFGA 3pt.%
Duez Henderson –26 45 58%
Jermain Davis – 10 18 56%
Nick Larson – 14 26 54%
Brad Joens – 22 41 54%
Kerwin Dunham – 8 15 53%
Matt Burks – 26 51 51%
Brian Haak – 13 26 50%
Anthony Tucker – 36 74 49%
John Lickliter – 23 50 46%
Terrence McGee – 26 58 45%
Jon Montgomery – 25 56 45%
Travis Brown –16 36 44%
Justin Johnson – 32 72 44%


there's also a dozen different players hitting over 60% of their FG attempts...and twenty guys are scoring 20ppg or more,
including obscure guys like Matt Burks (28.3 ppg/9.3 rpg/58% FG%), Duez Henderson (27.2 ppg/8.5 rpg/60% FG%/58% 3-pt pct.), and
Justin Johnson 26.0 ppg/8.3 rpg). Even total unknowns like Nick Kramer of Upper Iowa gets 20.3 ppg & hits 62% of all his shots,
and Iowa City HS player Dion Prewster hits 70% of his shots and averages 15 ppg.

[SFP]

The defense in these leagues are very poor until the tournaments start. Most players will not play extra hard D because that means that they have to expend energy that otherwise would help their O and foremost team D is non-existent. Team D is a very important part of stopping guys from making it to the rim and that is why you see such a high percentage. In the pro-AM leagues you'll see a college player light up in the stats while an NBA/Euro player will have good but not great stats. The reason is that the pro player is concentrating on practicing on specific areas of their game to improve while the college guy just wants to score.