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  • #16
    Originally posted by electricmayhem View Post
    I don't see any way that SM averages 10 points per game this year. There aren't enough guard minutes... will he play over EM, DD, etc.? I see him playing 20-22 minutes, and averaging 7-9 points. EM looked good running the point at the end of the year.
    Sam averaged 12.6 points per game last year as a sophomore, and because of Andrew Warren's injury/redshirt, Sam was Bradley's main outside shooting threat. He received more defensive effort than he will get next season, once AW is back, and there are other outside threats, too.

    If he drops his average from 12.6 ppg to 7-9, it will be an unprecedented drop for a kid with Sam's shooting and offensive skills and considering he will be a year older, and improved next year.
    I predict his shooting percentage will improve, he will take less shots but average about the same as last year.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by electricmayhem View Post
      I don't see any way that SM averages 10 points per game this year.
      SM WILL average 10+ this year............. BOOK IT!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Braves4Life View Post
        SM WILL average 10+ this year............. BOOK IT!
        I expect 15 ppg from SM. SM is a great set shooter and with AW getting a lot of attention I'd expect him to be a lot more open and able to set his feet and square up.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by SFP View Post
          I expect 15 ppg from SM. SM is a great set shooter and with AW getting a lot of attention I'd expect him to be a lot more open and able to set his feet and square up.
          SM led the team with 32.8 mpg last year, but with AW coming back, I don't see him getting more than 25, if JL uses EM at the point. These were the guards minutes last year...

          SM - 32.8
          DD - 26.8
          CR - 25.9 -- I realize he'll play the three some this year
          EM - 25.0

          Now add AW, DSE and JE to the mix, and what happens?

          Look, I love SM and I'm probably going to take heat for this, but of the seven guards in that list, he probably ranks 6th or 7th in talent. That equates to a severe reduction in minutes. DSE and JE probably won't get huge minutes as frosh, and somebody correctly mentioned that injuries happen, but am I missing something? Do we not have way too many guards for the minutes?
          Don't putt until the cup stops movin'

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          • #20
            Originally posted by electricmayhem View Post
            SM led the team with 32.8 mpg last year, but with AW coming back, I don't see him getting more than 25, if JL uses EM at the point. These were the guards minutes last year...

            SM - 32.8
            DD - 26.8
            CR - 25.9 -- I realize he'll play the three some this year
            EM - 25.0

            Now add AW, DSE and JE to the mix, and what happens?

            Look, I love SM and I'm probably going to take heat for this, but of the seven guards in that list, he probably ranks 6th or 7th in talent. That equates to a severe reduction in minutes. DSE and JE probably won't get huge minutes as frosh, and somebody correctly mentioned that injuries happen, but am I missing something? Do we not have way too many guards for the minutes?
            Let's just say I disagree with your assessment. He is the leader of the team and gives the team invaluable intangibles. He also is the leading returning scorer on the team. I'm not sure how you can say he will be the 6th option in the backcourt????? DSE and JE will probably not see much time on the court next year. JE has a better chance if team ever again plays zone against us. CR is more of a 3 then a 1-2 like SM so I'll take him out of the equation. EM needs to learn to shoot from the outside before he over takes SM. DD gives you a different look but I would not say better in all areas especially with consistant scoring. Who did the team look to for scoring at the end of the game? Enough said. AW will be ahead of him and everyone else will have to practice harder and better to step ahead of him in the depth chart. BTW...AW wll be playing the 3 not the 2 for most of his minutes. As a Sopmore that is what he played!
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            • #21
              Originally posted by electricmayhem View Post
              SM led the team with 32.8 mpg last year, but with AW coming back, I don't see him getting more than 25, if JL uses EM at the point. These were the guards minutes last year...

              SM - 32.8
              DD - 26.8
              CR - 25.9 -- I realize he'll play the three some this year
              EM - 25.0

              Now add AW, DSE and JE to the mix, and what happens?

              Look, I love SM and I'm probably going to take heat for this, but of the seven guards in that list, he probably ranks 6th or 7th in talent. That equates to a severe reduction in minutes. DSE and JE probably won't get huge minutes as frosh, and somebody correctly mentioned that injuries happen, but am I missing something? Do we not have way too many guards for the minutes?
              Sam "6th or 7th" in talent" DUDE you just blew all credilbility!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Grassman View Post
                Sam
                "6th or 7th" in talent" DUDE you just blew all credilbility!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                Amen Grassman! Talent is NOT defined by who can win a game of one-on-one

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                • #23
                  First of all, I never said he'd be the 6th option in the backcourt. My point is that if you line up strictly talent, he isn't better than any guard we have. Does he have intangibles? Yes. Is he a good leader? Yes. If you refer to my earlier post, I think he'll end up with 20-22 minutes per game, and I'll stick to that.

                  Just because someone is 6th in talent doesn't mean he's the 6th best guard. I agree, the rookies won't play a lot early. You guys can't honestly say that you think SM has more talent than AW, DD, or CR. I haven't seen much of the rookies, but I know JE and DSE are big talents. EM played better than SM during the Valley season.

                  That's all I'm saying. I'm not suggesting benching SM... I just think he'll fall to 20-22 minutes per game.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by electricmayhem View Post
                    Look, I love SM and I'm probably going to take heat for this, but of the seven guards in that list, he probably ranks 6th or 7th in talent.
                    ...Wow.

                    SM will average 25+ -- probably closer to 30. Book it.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by jeffsu View Post
                      ...Wow.

                      SM will average 25+ -- probably closer to 30. Book it.
                      I still haven't figured out which guy will play less minutes because of AW's return and the arrival of DSE and JE. I believe it's SM, though I respect everyone's opinion.
                      Don't putt until the cup stops movin'

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                      • #26
                        Always check on and enjoy this board as it usually is very informative without all of the b.s. content of some other boards......dare I say VT?

                        Just my two cents, but we Sycamore fans expect Harry Marshall to have a pretty good senior year. Think he will probably get some notice along the way.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by SycamoreFanatic View Post
                          Always check on and enjoy this board as it usually is very informative without all of the b.s. content of some other boards......dare I say VT?

                          Just my two cents, but we Sycamore fans expect Harry Marshall to have a pretty good senior year. Think he will probably get some notice along the way.

                          Tks again SycFanatic.

                          I don't hang out at ValleyTalk, rarely hit the site. Only time I actually ever go there on my own is to catch some in-game updates for other MVC teams if I can't get an online feed (ex: UNI doesn't allow free online audio).

                          Good luck to your Trees this season.

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                          • #28
                            Regarding the Bradley guards.....I'd be comfortable with the following minutes next season.

                            AW - 30
                            SM - 26
                            CR - 22
                            DD - 22
                            EM - 20

                            DSE and JE will have to work themselves into the rotation as there just aren't enough minutes.

                            I'd also like to see the other minutes go something like this...

                            WE - 24
                            SS - 16

                            AT will have to work himself into the rotation.

                            TB - 18
                            JP - 14
                            MK - 8
                            ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by shaunguth View Post
                              Regarding the Bradley guards.....I'd be comfortable with the following minutes next season.

                              AW - 30
                              SM - 26
                              CR - 22
                              DD - 22
                              EM - 20

                              DSE and JE will have to work themselves into the rotation as there just aren't enough minutes.

                              I'd also like to see the other minutes go something like this...

                              WE - 24
                              SS - 16

                              AT will have to work himself into the rotation.

                              TB - 18
                              JP - 14
                              MK - 8
                              This isn't a bad mix, but like you said, this is with JE, DSE and AT getting 0 minutes. Those guard minutes have to come from somewhere...

                              What are the chances that DSE redshirts this season?
                              Don't putt until the cup stops movin'

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                              • #30
                                It was all summed up in one line with SFP earlier post. EM has to learn how to shoot the 3 before he can become a starting pointguard over SM. He is not at all an offensive threat. SM will be one and he is just as good of a passer. Also I do in fact think SM has as much talent as DD and CR. You are right he doesnt have as much talent as AW but DD isn't much more "athletic" than SM and what does CR do that makes him so much more talented basketball wise than SM. I'd be very upset and frustrated if SM doesn't get the majority of minutes at point. You asked who's minutes will go down and truthfully it'll probably be EM's and SM's minutes will go down at the 2. DD will probably be splitting with CR quite a bit as well.

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