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  • #31
    High school stats and even early college stats can ALL be meaningless... (see Sead Odzic)

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    • #32
      I really don't get the argument here - it's a no lose situation in my book for all parties. As I understand it TL can play for BU without using up a scholarship and would basically be filling a walk-on's spot. If he pans out, great for him & BU and if not, he still gets a free BU education and can go on to be whatever he wants to be.

      Truthfully it's been long enough since JL went through BU that only the lower bowl fans and a few of us hometown guys can remember or make comparisons. So he will get to stand on his own merit. JC was a darn good shooter his Jr year in HS but had a bit of a push shot and the majority of his interest was because he was 6'5". Sounds like TL is a strong shooter already and imagine him as a 6'3" Soph shooter at the 2, whether it be in the starting line-up or off the bench. Wilkins will be running the point then anyway (ala Magic Johnson - tongue firmly in cheek).

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      • #33
        Originally posted by romar View Post
        I really don't get the argument here - it's a no lose situation in my book for all parties. As I understand it TL can play for BU without using up a scholarship and would basically be filling a walk-on's spot. If he pans out, great for him & BU and if not, he still gets a free BU education and can go on to be whatever he wants to be.

        Truthfully it's been long enough since JL went through BU that only the lower bowl fans and a few of us hometown guys can remember or make comparisons. So he will get to stand on his own merit. JC was a darn good shooter his Jr year in HS but had a bit of a push shot and the majority of his interest was because he was 6'5". Sounds like TL is a strong shooter already and imagine him as a 6'3" Soph shooter at the 2, whether it be in the starting line-up or off the bench. Wilkins will be running the point then anyway (ala Magic Johnson - tongue firmly in cheek).
        Romar--I don't think anyone is arguing. I think everyone thinks it would be a fine move if Tyler Les walked on at Bradley. I haven't seen anyone dispute this.

        I think people have discussed how good a player he is. That seems fair. But I don't think anyone thinks it is a bad idea.

        If he turns out like Tony Bennett at UWGB playing for his dad or Bryce Drew at VALPO playing for his dad I will certainly take it

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        • #34
          Originally posted by brocks View Post
          I assume that's MK bottom left? Kinda hard to make it out. Interesting the builds on these guys. They all look like strong, well-developed kids. No chicken legs in this group. Seems rare for frosh.
          Yes.....that's MK.
          ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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          • #35
            So much smack from some for a player that would not count against the scholarship grid! Can't imagine anyone disagreeing that this is simply an ideal situation so why even complain. I hope Tyler is reading these threads and comes to BU and quiets his doubters. I would bet without any injuries that TL will be a great contributer to our team. Pedigree baby! I really just do not understand the negativity by some.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by SFP View Post
              So much smack from some for a player that would not count against the scholarship grid! Can't imagine anyone disagreeing that this is simply an ideal situation so why even complain. I hope Tyler is reading these threads and comes to BU and quiets his doubters. I would bet without any injuries that TL will be a great contributer to our team. Pedigree baby! I really just do not understand the negativity by some.
              Well, I guess I got some answers! I was just curious about the consensus on him. I want him to play at BU, I was just wondering if we should expect him to get significant minutes or start at some point in his career. I guess we will wait and find out!
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              • #37
                this situation reminds me of the molinari situation.

                both les and molinari great shooters but neither have that much besides that. just like molinari, les will not get much d1 attention, les will only get like d3 attention like molinari did. and then because these kids really want to go d1 for some reason rather than getting playing time at d3 level, just like molinari, les will go play for his dad. les has one advantage over moliarni in the pg play. molinari couldnt get recruited by division 1 because he is a short 2 guard. les will have advantage that he will be fine size for a d1 pg,

                les will end up at bradley.

                im not disapproving these kids decisions to try d1, but i think there is a problem with kids now a days thinking that going d3 is not good. kids say "oh but thats only d3." college basketball on the d1,d1,d3 level is good no matter which level. only the best players play college.

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                • #38
                  I'll go WAY out on a limb here....

                  I will be more happy with TL's contributions to Bradley than BM's contributions to WIU.

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                  • #39
                    I guess the jury is already out! Geeez! Last I heard is that the Molinari kid is a pretty good ball player that given a bit of time he should make his dad's team better and proud by the time he graduates.

                    I remeber there was this kid at Drake last year who was even a walk on at one point. There were tons of naysayers and he proved a bunch and I mean a bunch of people wrong. Oh and that kid from Davidson! Come on you negative nellies, I'll take your opinion once I see you strap on some laces or are involved in this sport making a living.
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                    • #40
                      nobody said molinari isnt good, but just saying he isnt d1 talent.

                      and molinari has already made his dad very proud. graduating on time and being a stand up guy will make his dad proud.

                      currys situation at davidson was completely different, how can u even bring that up? curry was recruited by a number of d1s, just not big d1s. molinari was only recruited by wiu. also curry was fast and had other skills besides shooting.

                      For every feel good story that a player proved everybody wrong, there are 1000 stories that are stories were the player proved everybody right.

                      by the way sfp, i will lace up my shoes any day of the week you want to play some hoops. I was known to score a few points back in my day

                      as far as molinari vs. les i think les has better chance of getting playing time since he is a pg

                      but both will surely learn from their dad and maybe both become coaches one day since neither will play pro basketball

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by heybballfans View Post
                        nobody said molinari isnt good, but just saying he isnt d1 talent.

                        and molinari has already made his dad very proud. graduating on time and being a stand up guy will make his dad proud.

                        currys situation at davidson was completely different, how can u even bring that up? curry was recruited by a number of d1s, just not big d1s. molinari was only recruited by wiu. also curry was fast and had other skills besides shooting.

                        For every feel good story that a player proved everybody wrong, there are 1000 stories that are stories were the player proved everybody right.

                        by the way sfp, i will lace up my shoes any day of the week you want to play some hoops. I was known to score a few points back in my day

                        as far as molinari vs. les i think les has better chance of getting playing time since he is a pg

                        but both will surely learn from their dad and maybe both become coaches one day since neither will play pro basketball
                        I hope they, as you say, are both feel good storys and can make it to the next level after their college careers. Kind of early to even be thinkng pro ball one way or the other. I didn't think Coach Les would make it, but he did alright for himself. Best of luck to both young men.
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                        • #42
                          yea it is early to talk about it, but you can usually tell when a plyer can or cannot, and in their case cannot

                          But, hopefully both have fun and learn a lot playing for dads (when les plays for his dad)

                          also hopefully ty les stays healthy i hear he is injury prone

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by heybballfans View Post
                            yea it is early to talk about it, but you can usually tell when a plyer can or cannot, and in their case cannot

                            But, hopefully both have fun and learn a lot playing for dads (when les plays for his dad)

                            also hopefully ty les stays healthy i hear he is injury prone
                            I do not even know you nor the players that some are trying to judge. I just find it quite amusing how how you practically declare yourself an expert in these matters behind your screen name. Stating facts is one thing but stating ones opinion as facts is quite another. If only you rephrased your comments as opinion I'd take your word a lot more serious. I will take JL's action as a positive sign before I'd take the negative verbiage of most from this site.
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                            • #44
                              Tyler Les

                              I think there has been one point that really hasn't been discussed and that is the question or whether Tyler would want to play for JL and vice versa. I don't have a son that age yet but I think it is a significant decision. Does Tyler want to be in the locker room as his peers are complaining about the coach, playing time etc....What if he's getting time in front of a guy who thinks he getting favored? Does JL have to worry about being tougher on his son than other players (and then dealing with mom). As much as you would like to think it would all work out smoothly, there are a lot of "issues" that can be created both personally as well as in the locker room by having your son. I'm sure they will weigh all his options, both on and off the court, and make the right decision.

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                              • #45
                                Maybe we should start a new poll..........


                                How do you judge the capabilities of a young recruit?

                                --watch several times, do some homework and form an opinion, but be prepared to adjust the opinion if I find I have not carefully evaluated.

                                --watch a few times then form an opinion

                                --watch maybe for part of one game then decide I've seen enough and can fully predict the kid's potential

                                --or as most people on the board, never see the kid even one time but declare he hasn't got a chance of ever playing DI

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