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    Now that we have filled the 2009-10 class with the DSE signing... And since I'm looking forward to a completely (!) uneventful off-season, time to find something to occupy my time.

    Position by player and minutes played:

    1 - SM (16), EM (22), DSE (2)
    2 - AW (20), DD (10), SM (8 ), JE (2)
    3 - CR (20), DD (10), AW (8 ), TB (2)
    4 - TB (22), JP (13), MK (5)
    5 - WE (22), JP (8 ), SS (6), AT (4)

    Players by minutes played:
    AW - 28
    SM - 24
    TB - 24
    EM - 22
    WE - 22
    JP - 21
    CR - 20
    DD - 20
    SS - 6
    MK - 5
    AT - 4
    DSE - 2
    JE - 2

    Lineup constructed with a couple of goals... No one plays too many minutes-- playing basically 8 deep. Minimize situations with 2 6 footers on the floor at one time (to 6-8 minutes above). No minutes for non-"bigs" at the 4 or 5 positions.
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    Originally posted by thefish7 View Post
    Now that we have filled the 2009-10 class with the DSE signing... And since I'm looking forward to a completely (!) uneventful off-season, time to find something to occupy my time.

    Position by player and minutes played:

    1 - SM (16), EM (22), DSE (2)
    2 - AW (20), DD (10), SM (8 ), JE (2)
    3 - CR (20), DD (10), AW (8 ), TB (2)
    4 - TB (22), JP (13), MK (5)
    5 - WE (22), JP (8 ), SS (6), AT (4)

    Players by minutes played:
    AW - 28
    SM - 24
    TB - 24
    EM - 22
    WE - 22
    JP - 21
    CR - 20
    DD - 20
    SS - 6
    MK - 5
    AT - 4
    DSE - 2
    JE - 2

    Lineup constructed with a couple of goals... No one plays too many minutes-- playing basically 8 deep. Minimize situations with 2 6 footers on the floor at one time (to 6-8 minutes above). No minutes for non-"bigs" at the 4 or 5 positions.
    I would be very surprised if we don't have 2 guys playing at least 30plus minutes a game

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    • #3
      Originally posted by lefty View Post
      I would be very surprised if we don't have 2 guys playing at least 30plus minutes a game
      I kind of would be too. Minutes above are for "ideal" situations-- so intended minutes. Meaning, ones in which we completely destroy the opponent to give time to the freshman and AT. Actual game situations will very likely dictate lots of minutes for specific players in each game due to matchups and the score.
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      • #4
        Fish I believe your minutes are probably more likely senario for the end of the season. In the first part of the season I'll be shocked not to see SS's number more at 15 mpg. I'd also would guess that the majority of AW's mpg will be at the 3. If we do go small and the freshmen are not ready we'll probably see CR substituting in for TB. I do hope you are right because if so we should be able to play a very uptempo game on both sides of the ball.
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        • #5
          A couple things with this current roster -

          1. It is constructed with the assumption that we are going to get significant contributions from Will Egolf. The fact that we went with 2 guards rather than a guard and a JUCO big means that their pretty confident that he's going to be back to close to 100%. It may also mean that the Anthony Thompson ship hasn't sailed just yet. I say this because I really hope the staff wouldn't plan on going into the season with our reliance in the post being on Taylor Brown, Sam Singh, and 2 freshmen. You can pencil in another mediocre season if that's the case.

          2. Of the 7 guards on the roster, it's very likely that 2 are going to get very little playing time barring injury. Most likely, that's the two freshmen.

          3. While it seems like we have a roster full of great players (I hope we do), it's most likely that we will go 8-9 deep at the most. It's the way we've always played, and the way most good teams play. There's a very good chance that guys like Knezevic, Eastman, and Simms-Edwards don't play much if at all (again, barring injury).

          4. With the top 3 points taken into consideration - we have good depth at guard, not much inside. What else is new? With that being said, there are only 2 players who I think we can't live without - Will Egolf and Andrew Warren. I am sure that I will get a lot of disagreement, but out of WE and AW, I think WE is the most important as far as being healthy. They're both difference-makers, but we have a lot of solid guard depth. We have little if any on the inside.

          When does practice start?
          Onward and Upward!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
            A couple things with this current roster -

            1. It is constructed with the assumption that we are going to get significant contributions from Will Egolf. The fact that we went with 2 guards rather than a guard and a JUCO big means that their pretty confident that he's going to be back to close to 100%. It may also mean that the Anthony Thompson ship hasn't sailed just yet. I say this because I really hope the staff wouldn't plan on going into the season with our reliance in the post being on Taylor Brown, Sam Singh, and 2 freshmen. You can pencil in another mediocre season if that's the case.

            2. Of the 7 guards on the roster, it's very likely that 2 are going to get very little playing time barring injury. Most likely, that's the two freshmen.

            3. While it seems like we have a roster full of great players (I hope we do), it's most likely that we will go 8-9 deep at the most. It's the way we've always played, and the way most good teams play. There's a very good chance that guys like Knezevic, Eastman, and Simms-Edwards don't play much if at all (again, barring injury).

            4. With the top 3 points taken into consideration - we have good depth at guard, not much inside. What else is new? With that being said, there are only 2 players who I think we can't live without - Will Egolf and Andrew Warren. I am sure that I will get a lot of disagreement, but out of WE and AW, I think WE is the most important as far as being healthy. They're both difference-makers, but we have a lot of solid guard depth. We have little if any on the inside.

            When does practice start?
            How do you know WE is a difference maker? I agree we are doomed without any inside presence but we dont have any idea what WE is going to bring to the table. We havent seen much from him when healthy and now coming off a major injury we really dont know what he will bring. Does anyone think he his going to be better than Salley was his senior year? I think at this point that would be amazing.
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            • #7
              What about red-shirts? Think any of these guys will sit out a year?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Lakeview Brave View Post
                How do you know WE is a difference maker? I agree we are doomed without any inside presence but we dont have any idea what WE is going to bring to the table. We havent seen much from him when healthy and now coming off a major injury we really dont know what he will bring. Does anyone think he his going to be better than Salley was his senior year? I think at this point that would be amazing.
                MS gave us a healthy body inside, was an enforcer for us and a motor but not much more. He did get his fair share of rebounds but it seemed he fumbled the ball way to many times. I wonder how many assists DR would have had if MS had larger hands? Do not get me wrong, MS grew on me and then there were some of the intangibles he brought to the team but statistically speaking in order for us to be better then that team we need WE to score a bit more, limit the turnovers and rebound as well. I think he can and will.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Lakeview Brave View Post
                  How do you know WE is a difference maker? I agree we are doomed without any inside presence but we dont have any idea what WE is going to bring to the table. We havent seen much from him when healthy and now coming off a major injury we really dont know what he will bring. Does anyone think he his going to be better than Salley was his senior year? I think at this point that would be amazing.
                  Perhaps it is a small sample size I am working with, but from what I saw from WE in his 3 games where he logged major minutes, I saw a big man that could do things we haven't had a big man do in a long time. He had legitimate scoring moves with his back to the basket. He was long, could block shots, and is big enough to guard legitimate post players. He could make free throws and 15 footers. He made a significant impact in the 3 games he played in, 2 of which were against decent teams (Richmond and ETSU). Last year there was no one else on the roster that could do any of those things, and I hesitate to say Jordan Prosser will be able to do that immediately and effectively at this level as a freshman. I'm not saying WE is a difference maker in the sense that he's going to go out and grab 20 and 10 and carry a team to victory regularly, but I think that if healthy he can be that missing piece to this 'system' that keeps us from being so one-dimensional.

                  Plus, quite frankly we have zero quality depth inside. We have lots of depth at guard. If we lose our best post player again this year we're in trouble, AW or no AW.
                  Onward and Upward!

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                  • #10
                    "How do you know WE is a difference maker? I agree we are doomed without any inside presence but we dont have any idea what WE is going to bring to the table. We havent seen much from him when healthy and now coming off a major injury we really dont know what he will bring. Does anyone think he his going to be better than Salley was his senior year? I think at this point that would be amazing."

                    IMHO Will is a difference maker......the inury slowed him down, but he also had a year of being on the bench and seeing what JL expects from his 4 or 5....I think he will be better than MS, but not sure that it will be immediate next season.....

                    from the folks I had talked with....Will was the one of the most improved player during the summer...and poised for great things....
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                    • #11
                      If DSE and JE are only going to play 2 minutes per game then one if not both of them absolutely need to redshirt.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by FutureBrave2013 View Post
                        If DSE and JE are only going to play 2 minutes per game then one if not both of them absolutely need to redshirt.
                        Don't think that will happen, and I don't think either of them would be interested in that. It only takes one injury to make them significant role players. And who knows, if Eastman is the kind of shooter we think he is, we may need him to be a zone buster.
                        Onward and Upward!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
                          Perhaps it is a small sample size I am working with, but from what I saw from WE in his 3 games where he logged major minutes, I saw a big man that could do things we haven't had a big man do in a long time. He had legitimate scoring moves with his back to the basket. He was long, could block shots, and is big enough to guard legitimate post players. He could make free throws and 15 footers. He made a significant impact in the 3 games he played in, 2 of which were against decent teams (Richmond and ETSU). Last year there was no one else on the roster that could do any of those things, and I hesitate to say Jordan Prosser will be able to do that immediately and effectively at this level as a freshman. I'm not saying WE is a difference maker in the sense that he's going to go out and grab 20 and 10 and carry a team to victory regularly, but I think that if healthy he can be that missing piece to this 'system' that keeps us from being so one-dimensional.

                          Plus, quite frankly we have zero quality depth inside. We have lots of depth at guard. If we lose our best post player again this year we're in trouble, AW or no AW.
                          Well said... I couldnt' agree more.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by thefish7 View Post


                            Players by minutes played:
                            AW - 28
                            SM - 24
                            TB - 24
                            EM - 22
                            WE - 22
                            JP - 21
                            CR - 20
                            DD - 20
                            SS - 6
                            MK - 5
                            AT - 4
                            DSE - 2
                            JE - 2
                            you have about 15-20 minutes (on average) to play with because of overtimes and players missing games. the total should not add up to 200 minutes but closer to 215-220.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by audacious_aficionado View Post
                              you have about 15-20 minutes (on average) to play with because of overtimes and players missing games. the total should not add up to 200 minutes but closer to 215-220.
                              I think this is the view of a typical game, though... not end of year minute averages, in which case, you're right!

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