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  • #16
    Originally posted by tornado
    the rule allows a player to plant both feet then choose one as a pivot foot, then can jump from that position but cannot then establilsh another pivot...

    thus if airborne he can get the equivalent of a step and a half, but if catches the ball with both feet on the floor, he can only move one of them thus giving him only a single step.
    Close T but I think you need to check the rule when a player catches the ball with both feet planted. The first foot he picks up, the opposite foot becomes the pivot foot. So he is still allowed to plant his first foot and that becomes his first step. The other foot may come off the floor but can't return to the floor unless the player has passed the ball or shot it. Very confusing but easy to determine when seeing it. If a player catches a ball and lands on one foot that foot becomes his pivot foot and he may step and land the other foot but the foot he landed on to begin with may not touch again unless he has passed or shot the ball.

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    • #17
      I don't begrudge the Oakland coach for filing a formal protest. I imagine most coaches would do the same in similar situations.

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      • #18
        I agree with Da Coach completely on this one. To start with even if what Coach Kampe said were true, even if the officials completely blew it, it wouldn't change a thing. You can find some point in every game that's played where a call is blown but that's the breaks.

        Still, I would at least be sympathetic if there were any basis, but what he said was completely untrue. I also watched the end a dozen times and even with the crude video on YouTube I was easily able to pause the video at :44 before Roberts had the ball and pause it again at :45 with the ball half way to the basket. Even just eyeing it live I think a person with a decent internal clock could see he had the ball less than a second, and I suspect if you had a good video you would find the clock keeper was extremely accurate and it was very close to 0.7 second. And as for the traveling allegations, looking at his feet the suggestion that he took three steps is just absurd--unless the coach is counting the steps he took before he had the ball didn't count.

        I'm all for a coach standing up for his team if he has a real gripe, but if Jim Les made a protest under similar circumstances I would worry about what he is teaching the team.


        Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
        I am sorry, but if this game had been reversed, and Bradley lost on such a shot, and Jim Les announced he was filing a protest, I am certain he would be assailed here by many posters.
        There is exactly 0% chance this outcome will be overturned, so he comes out of this looking like it is a futile effort to save face, and a massive bunch of sour grapes.
        I feel a bit sorry for Kampe and the Oakland kids for how they lost to Bradley, and their previous loss to No. Dakota State, but the coach should have held his protest, and moved on. It does nothing for his kids.
        Just my opinion.

        By the way, I have watched the end of the game dozens of times, and there was absolutely nothing irregular or wrong with the clock management, or the officials decision. It was a legal, good shot, albeit an unlikely one.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by ifarania View Post
          He may well have been the most agitated and hot-tempered coach I've ever seen at Carver. He was really unfair to his players..
          I coulda sworn there was a timeout when I heard him screaming at his players and (I could be wrong, but) I thought I heard the F-bomb once or twice. It was when they were heading into their huddle and hadn't gotten close to their bench yet and so it was closer to where DR and KW sit. Maybe they heard him saying Yuck about their Luck instead of something else I thought I mighta heard.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by MacabreMob View Post
            I coulda sworn there was a timeout when I heard him screaming at his players and (I could be wrong, but) I thought I heard the F-bomb once or twice. It was when they were heading into their huddle and hadn't gotten close to their bench yet and so it was closer to where DR and KW sit. Maybe they heard him saying Yuck about their Luck instead of something else I thought I mighta heard.
            You heard right, there was an f-bomb in there. I heard it too.
            Onward and Upward!

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            • #21
              Originally posted by MacabreMob View Post
              I coulda sworn there was a timeout when I heard him screaming at his players and (I could be wrong, but) I thought I heard the F-bomb once or twice. It was when they were heading into their huddle and hadn't gotten close to their bench yet and so it was closer to where DR and KW sit. Maybe they heard him saying Yuck about their Luck instead of something else I thought I mighta heard.
              He also let fly something about a horse's bowel movements at the ref, but the ref either ignored him or didn't hear it... I heard it clearly and I was about five feet further away from him than the ref. Will Hudson, I think is his name, botched a defensive assignment in the first half and found himself on the bench, and I heard at least six or seven swear words fly out of Kampe's red face, along with some spittle and the dignity of his power forward... Keep in mind he was about four inches from his face. This happened several times.

              He looked like a smaller, more indignant version of Marty Simmons, what with the Ditka-like sweatervest.. But the similarity stops there. Marty Simmons would need to inject some adrenaline directly into his heart so that he could feel nothing but rage toward these kids who are trying to play basketball and get an education.

              Can you tell I really disliked Kampe?
              Here's the deal, Wyoming for football, Bradley for basketball.

              Surviving Orwellian message boards since 1984

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              • #22
                Originally posted by MacabreMob View Post
                I coulda sworn there was a timeout when I heard him screaming at his players and (I could be wrong, but) I thought I heard the F-bomb once or twice. It was when they were heading into their huddle and hadn't gotten close to their bench yet and so it was closer to where DR and KW sit. Maybe they heard him saying Yuck about their Luck instead of something else I thought I mighta heard.

                I've heard and seen that on the home side as well.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by MacabreMob View Post
                  I coulda sworn there was a timeout when I heard him screaming at his players and (I could be wrong, but) I thought I heard the F-bomb once or twice. It was when they were heading into their huddle and hadn't gotten close to their bench yet and so it was closer to where DR and KW sit. Maybe they heard him saying Yuck about their Luck instead of something else I thought I mighta heard.
                  I never heard any F-bombs from my set until the 75 foot bomb for a BU win Then I said to myself, (You F__ken A) It is what it is a BU win NEXT

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by ifarania View Post
                    He looked like a smaller, more indignant version of Marty Simmons, what with the Ditka-like sweatervest.. But the similarity stops there. Marty Simmons would need to inject some adrenaline directly into his heart so that he could feel nothing but rage toward these kids who are trying to play basketball and get an education.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by ifarania View Post
                      He may well have been the most agitated and hot-tempered coach I've ever seen at Carver. He was really unfair to his players..
                      Yeah, agree. He was one foul-mouthed dude... And exciteable. Started heckling him in the second half for language.
                      My sports blog.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by ifarania View Post
                        He also let fly something about a horse's bowel movements at the ref, but the ref either ignored him or didn't hear it... I heard it clearly and I was about five feet further away from him than the ref. Will Hudson, I think is his name, botched a defensive assignment in the first half and found himself on the bench, and I heard at least six or seven swear words fly out of Kampe's red face, along with some spittle and the dignity of his power forward... Keep in mind he was about four inches from his face. This happened several times.

                        He looked like a smaller, more indignant version of Marty Simmons, what with the Ditka-like sweatervest.. But the similarity stops there. Marty Simmons would need to inject some adrenaline directly into his heart so that he could feel nothing but rage toward these kids who are trying to play basketball and get an education.

                        Can you tell I really disliked Kampe?
                        Me too. My fiancee, her mom, my brother and I were all on the receiving end of some of that spittle.
                        My sports blog.

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