Peoria 1A/2A basketball playoffs

[mrcoachdude]

There is nothing wrong with private schools....but this team has obviously been put together over the last couple of seasons.....contrast that with Peoria Christian being private and having all its players since Pre-K or there abouts.......

Again I hope Massac wins it....

[runninfiend]

i've gone to the tournament every year since it's been here and this year has been the worst for sportsmanship i've ever seen. the seton crowd last night was terrible, taunting the school from the next game and generally provoking crap.

the crowd today from woodlawn was obscene and all over the officials the whole game. and those were the parents. what a disappointment.

as an aside, i really dislike the four classes. it waters things down and this two third place games thing makes for a long day. the two semifinal games on sat. morning were much more exciting.

[Murph]

as an aside, i really dislike the four classes. it waters things down and this two third place games thing makes for a long day.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks the 4 class system is really bad.

[jasonpeoria911]

I'm with you on that one. I've only bothered to watch maybe 1 or 2 games on TV ever since it went to a 4 class system. Some of these small schools that were average before are now suddenly dominating with only a few losses. Just not real entertaining to me.

Jason

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks the 4 class system is really bad.

[jasonpeoria911]

I'm not sure what time you rolled thru downtown but their was a guy that attempted to rob that Downtown 66 gas station near the Riverplex. He hit the clerk over the head with a gun but he didn't get anything. Then the numnut came back to the store an hour later, just after the fights were ending. Needless to say that it only took PPD about 10 seconds to get there and take him into custody lol. The first incident happened about 8:30 and then he returned about 9:45pm. That's Friday the 13th for ya.

Jason

K-9's and Pepperball?

Wow.

That would have been real interresting to see. I was working out late at the RiverPlex and afterwards thought I would cruise through Downtown to see what the action was like. I was amazed at the police presence and Jefferson street was blocked off. Jason911 from what you report though there seems to have been a reason for all this.

[bigjimmy]

4 class basketball sucks. 2 class basketball is more than enough. Part of the excitement was not knowing who was going to come home with a trophy before Friday. It just seemed more meaningful then.

[lefty]

I'm a 2 class fan as well

[Murph]

i've gone to the tournament every year since it's been here and this year has been the worst for sportsmanship i've ever seen. The Seton crowd last night was terrible, taunting the school from the next game and generally provoking crap.

Cheatin I mean Seton Academy humiliated another public school last night.

A little research shows tuition costs $8,150.00 a year (this also gets your kid a laptop computer) to send your kid to this Roman Catholic High School. They also state that spiritual empowerment is a priority at Seton Academy and students are expected to model respect, integrity and cooperation for the common good. Our athletes, 80% of which are on the honor roll, live our philosophy ???play hard or go home???.

I wonder how many of their recruited basketball players are on the honor roll?

[Murph]

You do have a good point, as a few of their varsity players started high school elsewhere.
By the way, their best player, Jordan Walker, who transferred to Seton from Hales Franciscan, originally started in Champaign and has actually transferred twice.
His teammate DJ Cooper also transferred to Seton last July from Hales Franciscan.
Walker has lousy grades, is an academic non-qualifier, and won't be playing D-I ball next year.

Hey--- Murph....here's a really incriminating comment from an article just last month...

"Seton officials are hoping the team's basketball success will help them recruit more male students"
"..the win could help the school attract more students since boys follow athletics."
http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:...&ct=clnk&gl=us

This would make a good article for the PJS and what is wrong with high school athletics. Do you suppose they would risk stepping on IHSA toes to embarrass everybody involved?

[leebiddlecome]

Murph...I edited my above post....go read the article in which the coach actually admits he is recruiting junior high kids...
someone needs to forward our "research" to the IHSA!!

(ps...I just sent this thread to Marty Hickman)

Im guessing Marty Hickman is pretty aware of what goes on at Seton Academy. If they tried to stop recruiting at the IHSA level they wouldn't have any time left to do anything else.

If a private school wants to go watch junior high games and recruit kids? Why is that wrong? They recruit kids for all kinds of reasons. I don't have to like it but I don't see why it is wrong. They are private, they need enrollment numbers.

Remember the movie Hoop Dreams where Gene Pingatore "recruited" Gates and Agee to come to Westchester St. Joe's?

[mrcoachdude]

Just FYI, many fights breaking out outside the Civic Center and on Main street. Crowd of about 150-200 breaking up into many small fights on Main St, Madison st, in the parking decks. PD breaking out pepper ball guns and K-9's. Not sure which fans the schools are from but there throwing it down.

Jason

I witnessed a brawl on Saturday that the police had to break up....about 50 or 60 kids scattered everywhere......our Peoria youth put on a great show

Thanks alot grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

[mrcoachdude]

were they Peoria kids or kids from out of town?

I would say they are Peoria Kids....just guessing of course..but that many kids....

[runninfiend]

Cheatin I mean Seton Academy humiliated another public school last night.

A little research shows tuition costs $8,150.00 a year (this also gets your kid a laptop computer) to send your kid to this Roman Catholic High School. They also state that spiritual empowerment is a priority at Seton Academy and students are expected to model respect, integrity and cooperation for the common good. Our athletes, 80% of which are on the honor roll, live our philosophy ???play hard or go home???.

I wonder how many of their recruited basketball players are on the honor roll?

i do think i heard that the transfer players had to sit out a year. i didn't read all those bylaws, but i'm assuming everything is kosher.

from a pure basketball standpoint, that team was one of the best small school teams i've ever seen, maybe since the st. mel teams of the 80's. put them on the floor with say...missouri state, and they might get the win.

this weekend just demonstrated what a debacle the 4 class system is. the champs from 1A and 2A were the two best teams in those classes combined. If you keep A, you probably get Meridian vs. Seton in the championship. That's a better game than either of the championships and you eliminate the ridiculous two third place games.

All the IHSA has succeded in doing is watering down the tourmanment and giving us less competitive matchups.

[mrcoachdude]

"this weekend just demonstrated what a debacle the 4 class system is. the champs from 1A and 2A were the two best teams in those classes combined. If you keep A, you probably get Meridian vs. Seton in the championship. That's a better game than either of the championships and you eliminate the ridiculous two third place games. "

Meridian would not have beaten many of the 2A teams that did not even get to Peoria....IMHO...and Seton beats Meridian by 20 or more

[runninfiend]

Meridian would not have beaten many of the 2A teams that did not even get to Peoria....IMHO...and Seton beats Meridian by 20 or more

and annawan, lewistown, and woodlawn didn't belong in the final four. meridian was a clear class above. so basically what you have is one of the biggest schools in 1A dominating the field, thus negating the opportunity of the smaller schools to win a championship, taking us back to square one.

maybe we need eight classes like in football....or sixteen?