CBI and CI postseason tournaments

[southpaw nothin]

because of tournaments like these, 20 wins aint what it used to be.....i would probably say that 23 - 25 is the 'new 20' Big difference in 4 straight nit/ncaa appearances to 4 straight 20 win/postseason appearances

The repeal of the exempt tournament participation rule is the real reason why 20 win seasons are meaningless, because nearly every team is playing about 3 more games, every year.

These tournaments give teams who didn't even get to 20 wins given that, a chance.

But I'm OK with them for all the teams like Brown last year that would not have had opportunities otherwise.

[BradleyBrave]

Agreed. 20 wins just doesn't have the cache it used to have, especially when it's coupled with double-digit losses. I think the 23 regular season win threshold and/or single digit loss threshold are more indicative of a truly successful regular season.

[Bradleyguy10]

Single digit lose column would be beautiful....

that's my wish for next year...progress is progress

[brocks]

20-win seasons aren't what they used to be, but it's still going to be a rare program hat strings together 5 or 10 of them in a row. Still a worthwhile goal.

[BradleyBrave]

20-win seasons aren't what they used to be, but it's still going to be a rare program hat strings together 5 or 10 of them in a row. Still a worthwhile goal.

True. Creighton has had 11 in a row, so I think it is still noteworthy, just not as noteworthy as it used to be. Now, if we can start sprinkling in some NCAA appearances...different story.

[southpaw nothin]

We may have our first indicator as to pecking order:

I ran across an article earlier today that states James Madison is being considered by the CBI but referred to as being "low" on their list. While the CI.com tourney is "very interested" in JMU.

The CBI is also reportedly interested in 13-16 Oregon State.

Schools that have come out with public "maybe" statements: UWGB, The Citadel, Charleston, Troy, Evansville and Drake.

Cleveland State is as well, but is playing for the Horizon autobid tonight. CSU has been passed over by the NIT historically.

[Da Coach]

An article I read suggests the CBI contacted Oregon State prior to their latest 3 games (all losses), and expressed interest. At that time there was a reasonable possibility OSU could end the year at .500 or better. I suspect the CBI contacts lots of schools in that position. But with their latest 3-game slide, and now there is almost no chance they will get back to .500, I would be surprised if they get an actual CBI bid.
The only way it could happen is if a bunch of teams with better recrods turn the CBI down.

[Da Coach]

One more thing I though when I saw the reference to a 13-16 team getting interest from the CBI (especially a bad 13-16 team like OSU- 2 of their wins were to non-D1 teams, and some of their wins were against very poor D1 teams). If by chance it does happen that a tournament like the CBI is inviting bad teams with losing records to participate, then I would change my opinion about Bradley agreeing to participate. Bradley should steer clear of the CBI if they are going to take teams with losing records, unless they are good teams that happen to play in tough leagues, yet maintain relatively high RPIs (under 125 or so).
For the record- Oregon State's RPI is 143-

[TheAsianSensation]

There are enough winning programs to fill both CIT and CBI fields. Whether the teams want to is another story.

If you go on the theory that if there are 340 eligible programs, 170 of them will have winning records, and you can toss the worst barely over .500 from the lower conferences.

[southpaw nothin]

One more thing I though when I saw the reference to a 13-16 team getting interest from the CBI (especially a bad 13-16 team like OSU- 2 of their wins were to non-D1 teams, and some of their wins were against very poor D1 teams). If by chance it does happen that a tournament like the CBI is inviting bad teams with losing records to participate, then I would change my opinion about Bradley agreeing to participate. Bradley should steer clear of the CBI if they are going to take teams with losing records, unless they are good teams that happen to play in tough leagues, yet maintain relatively high RPIs (under 125 or so).
For the record- Oregon State's RPI is 143-

My guess is OSU is a fallback option. Although the Pac-10's non-snub of the CBI event last year makes it more likely a team like the Beavers may get in.

[it's boogie time]

Bradley sent out an email with the tickets prices for any of the three tournaments possible that might be played at Carver Arena:

$30 (Club Level), $25 (Priority I), $20 (Priority II), $14 (Priority III) and $9 (Priority IV). Bradley University students will be able claim tickets at no charge, courtesy of the Braves Club, by presenting a valid student ID at time of pickup.

[southpaw nothin]

Cinci announced today it's not interested in either the CBI or CIT, if not invited to the NIT.

[Bravesfan]

Cinci announced today it's not interested in either the CBI or CIT, if not invited to the NIT.

Awwww, shucky darns!

Enjoy your golf outting next week guys!

[Da Coach]

That's likely true. The NCAA committe will use this loss as a reason to eliminate Cincy, so they don't get ripped for showering too many bids on the Big East.

But after they lost to the 5th place Missouri Valley team in the CBI last year, I predict Cincinnati will decline a CBI and CI.com bid so they aren't embarrassed again.

http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?p=123389#post123389

Looks like I guessed right on this one. I suspect this kind of decision might even be a league-wide, unwritten policy dictated by the Big East and a couple other power conferences.

[SFP]

Remember what OSU has going for them is that the coach is the brother in-law of Prez. Obama and this in itself may attract some publicity. Publicity goes a long way of selling seats!