CBI and CI postseason tournaments

[Da Coach]

It seems to me I heard when B.U. beat purdue to win the N.I.T. they recieved $100,000. plus expenses.Does anyone else remember anything different.

The figure I remember is that the winnings were around $50,000, plus expenses.

[UnbiasPerspective1]

I would love for BU to play in a post season tournament, but am not sure if it would really do anything for next years team. I hope the coaches do some things in the off-season to improve next years team. If not, we will be having this same discussion next year.

Does anyone think we really have a chance to win one of these tournaments. This is not last years team. We have one good win on our resume, and we got that at home. All of our other wins came against subpar teams.

[Da Coach]

Would you just call it a season, and refuse any invitation? Why?

Bradley is a young team. They lose only 1 of their top 5 scorers, and only 1 of their top 5 in minutes played.
They have a lot of young talent returning, plus very good talent joining the team next year. I think additional games this year would benefit the team a lot more than they did last year. From what I have heard, all the players favor playing more games, and all the fans I know agree.

[Rusty 54]

Would you just call it a season, and refuse any invitation? Why?

Bradley is a young team. They lose only 1 of their top 5 scorers, and only 1 of their top 5 in minutes played.
They have a lot of young talent returning, plus very good talent joining the team next year. I think additional games this year would benefit the team a lot more than they did last year. From what I have heard, all the players favor playing more games, and all the fans I know agree.

I want more games. I think it will help out EM, DN, and hopefully AT out, as well as let DC and Wilson wear the uniform again.

I dont want the season to stop. The offseason is long enough. I would love to see our team again no matter what team is against us. Granted I am a student so tickets are $1 whoever we play, but thats just me.

[Bravesfan]

Oh, don't get me wrong, I am all for it. The only downside I can see is potentially cost. My guess is it probably won't cost too much.
I don't know Bradley's money situation this year. A lot of business and non-profits and goverments are looking at cutting budgets 5% or more. If that is the case for the athletic director then he would have to decide wether he can work this into the budget or not.
Endowments are down significantly, I would guess donations are down and I suspect BU has to watch costs even in the best of times. If I was Ken Kavanaugh and had to decide between the CBI and laying off 1 employee, I would have a very tough decision to make. When you are the one who has to lay someone off or cut everyones pay you look at things a little differently. Maybe we are not in that situation, I don't know.
Bradleybrave said, the CI is half the cost of the CBI. I am sure that will be a factor for a lot of schools. Maybe even Bradley.
If we can swing it financially, I am all in.

Gotcha. I see where you are coming from. Glad to see that we both agree that more games is a good thing.

As far as the economy is concerned, well let's just say that paying money to play more games should be a great investment for a bright future!

[SFP]

The MVC as well as most conferences that I know of split the revenue from the Tourney. That is why we need to up the ante for every school in the league. You either invest in your program or leave. It is so unfair that schools like ours, CU, WSU put a lot into their programs and when they get into the dance they have to share it with Evansville, InSU and even DU. The chances of DU going above .500 again is daunting! The number of fans that attend the MVC is an indication of the resources that each school puts into their programs. The lack of funds going to the conference also plays into the quality of reffing we have to take!

[BradleyBrave]

I want more games. I think it will help out EM, DN, and hopefully AT out, as well as let DC and Wilson wear the uniform again.

I dont want the season to stop. The offseason is long enough. I would love to see our team again no matter what team is against us. Granted I am a student so tickets are $1 whoever we play, but thats just me.

What about Taylor Brown? Saturday's loss was arguably his 'coming out' party with his Jordan-esque reverse layup and 8 points off the bench. Along with the guys you mentioned (EM, DN, AT), the CIT needs to be heavy on TB as well. Heck, I would be fine playing Wilson at the 3 and starting EM, DN, TB, and AT. What do we have to lose?

[thefish7]

I expect to see some wild lineups in a CBI or CI.com tournament. TB did have a great game in StL... Needs to work on the defense a bit, but love that potential.

[Rusty 54]

What about Taylor Brown? Saturday's loss was arguably his 'coming out' party with his Jordan-esque reverse layup and 8 points off the bench. Along with the guys you mentioned (EM, DN, AT), the CIT needs to be heavy on TB as well. Heck, I would be fine playing Wilson at the 3 and starting EM, DN, TB, and AT. What do we have to lose?

You're right, I was thinking TB as well but must have forgot to put him. And I think if we are going to be successful we need TB to contribute. IMO he could be more important to the team next year then McCain, Norris, or AT. Brown is the only one of those that I think will start next year

[BradleyBrave]

You're right, I was thinking TB as well but must have forgot to put him. And I think if we are going to be successful we need TB to contribute. IMO he could be more important to the team next year then McCain, Norris, or AT. Brown is the only one of those that I think will start next year

I think that is very true. I like Norris a lot, but if anyone is going to get squeezed out of a crowded backcourt because of the return of Andrew Warren, I think it's DN.

[Rusty 54]

I think that is very true. I like Norris a lot, but if anyone is going to get squeezed out of a crowded backcourt because of the return of Andrew Warren, I think it's DN.

I agree with you. Minutes are going to be tough to get for everyone next year. AT im guessing will have a hard time taking minutes from Egolf and Singh. I see TB, then Prosser at the 4, with Milos having to work really hard to see the floor (though I havent seen Milos play). I think Maniscalco is going to have a lock on the point guard spot, with EM subbing for him. AW, and Roberts have the 2 and 3 spots, though Dodie could start and will play heavy minutes regardless. And EM and DN will sub for those spots as well. IMO. And thats without injuries

[BradleyBrave]

I would love to get some insights on what teams the CBI and CIT are looking at right now. It doesn't take a rocket scientist or even a 'bracketologist' to see what teams surely aren't going to the NCAA's (like BU), or teams that most likely are not going to the NCAA's (Northwestern, Georgetown, Notre Dame, Davidson). The NIT is going to basically be the BCS Invitational Part II (with the NCAA being Part I), so I am guessing that we're going to see the barely .500 BCS teams grouped with a bunch of good, but not quite good enough mids and lows. All I ask this year is that the CBI doesn't lower itself to sub-.500 teams this year. To me, that really made the thing look 2nd rate, even though it's really no different than the NIT aside from its history. Otherwise, I thought it was a well-run tournament.

[TheAsianSensation]

In my latest projections, I had these 32 teams as CBI or CIT teams. Obviously, the actual teams and where they're going is fluid, but this should give a good idea as to the type of caliber team we'd encounter.

It's essentially 3 types of teams:
1) Random BCS teams hovering around 6-10 in conference play
2) 3rd, 4th, 5th place teams out of solid conferences like the WAC, Horizon, and CAA
3) Random top 2 or top 3 teams out of lower conferences (i.e., the Vermonts and UALRs of the world)

Seton Hall (14-14)
North Carolina St (16-12)
St John's (15-15)
Stanford (17-11)
Mississippi (16-13)
Alabama (14-13)
Wyoming (16-11)
St Joseph's (15-14)

LaSalle (17-12)
St Louis (16-12)
Richmond (15-14)
Evansville (15-12)
Bradley (16-13)
UTEP (18-11)
New Mexico St (15-14)
Boise St (18-10)

Cleveland St (19-10)
Wright St (19-12)
Wisconsin-Milwaukee (15-13)
Rider (18-11)
Hofstra (19-10)
Old Dominion (20-9)
Drexel (15-13)
Portland (17-11)

Vermont (23-7)
Troy (18-11)
Arkansas-Little Rock (22-7)
Charleston (22-7)
Buffalo (18-10)
Akron (18-11)
VMI (20-7)
Portland St (18-9)







Just to idly speculate, how does a subregional, of, say:
4) St Louis @ 1) Bradley
3) Akron @ 2) Cleveland St
sound?

[MacabreMob]

Just to idly speculate, how does a subregional, of, say:
4) St Louis @ 1) Bradley
3) Akron @ 2) Cleveland St
sound?

I was eyeballing the same kinda thing TAS. I am not quite ready to speculate just yet... but as I was looking at it Saturday and yesterday... I came up with the same thing. St Louis at Bradley. Then the winner of Akron and I think I mighta had Wright St.

[TheAsianSensation]

I was eyeballing the same kinda thing TAS. I am not quite ready to speculate just yet... but as I was looking at it Saturday and yesterday... I came up with the same thing. St Louis at Bradley. Then the winner of Akron and I think I mighta had Wright St.

In fact, Cleveland St might go to the NIT. Or Wisconsin-Green Bay. Let's make them a 1 seed and us a 2 seed.

CITology!