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ESPN wonders if the Mountain West will be the MVC for 2007. The problem I see is the Mountain West has too many teams that will again have high RPIs, and they still play far too many games in their own arenas and against too many cupcakes with even higher RPIs. I don't see them doing what the MVC did last year.
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Re: Other conferences prepare to copy from the Missouri Vall
Ooohhhhh.....Originally posted by MickeyT
This is a juicy article. And sweet.
First of all, the MWC is supposedly considered THE next step just out of the BCS 6 and a Tweener Conference (not a BCS, but NOT a Mid-Major).
Secondly, it gives the formula the MVC used for "Cheating the RPI":
'It's a formula the MVC used last season in securing bids for Southern Illinois, Wichita State, Bradley and Northern Iowa. Many feel the Valley figured out how best to influence the infamous RPI: defeat teams you're not supposed to, don't lose to teams you should beat, enter conference play with several strong RPIs and then spend the next few months beating each other up.'
Ummmm - what the flip-flop is wrong with that??? How is that cheating the system??? Beat the teams you are supposed to beat - beat teams you aren't supposed to - then be competitive in your league. Holy crap - that is a formula for just going out and scheduling a good schedule and winning the games on that schedule. OMG - what a revelation!! Digger and Packer read this? I gotta hear their spin!
And has Patsos seen this? -
Ok, ok.
I have OCD.
But this was eating on me.
This jerkie boasts up the MWC like it's gonna be the 'breakout year' for the MWC and get 4 bids and be successful like the MVC was this past year.
He mentions 5 teams return 4 of 5 starters and 2 return 3 of 5. They have their POY back. And they have 8 of their 15 All Conference selections back.
MVC returns in just the projected possible Top5 teams: 2 have 5 of 5, one with 4 of 5 and one with 3 of 5. MVC returns a projected POY for last year (Nate Funk) and returns 9 of 15 All Conference selections.
I WILL TAKE THE TOP 4 OF THE MVC AGAINST THE TOP 4 OF THE MWC THIS YEAR!
Unfortunately, if both conferences get 4 teams in, the MWC bids will be seeded from about 5-8 and the MVC will get from 7-10. Our 7-10's get almost certain death in R2, and the MWC gets a good shot to win 2 games with their 5 and 6 seeds. NOTE: They get the better seeds ONLY because they are a Tweener Conference - not considered a Mid-Major.Comment
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This article really, really makes me laugh!!!!
Ritchie McKay says this:
"It is, by far, the best our league has been since I got here," fifth-year New Mexico coach Ritchie McKay said. "I can definitely see the [Missouri Valley] comparisons. I think those are very fair."
Really??
Let's actually take a look instead of just balbbering all this C*R*A*P.
First of all, they list San Diego as returning four of five starters.
But they don't make a single mention of the guy they lost!!!
They lost their very best player, and superstar and leading scorer and rebounder, Marcus Slaughter, the MWC Player of the Year, who went to the NBA.
SDSU won this conference last year AND the tourney but had an RPI of 55 and might have been in trouble if they had to count on an at large bid because of all the Albany and Maryland-Baltimore County- like teams on their schedule.
The only reason they will win maybe 20 games, is because of the schedule they play. But they won't beat anyone whose RPI is under 50, they sure didn't last year.
The best overall win they had in 2005-2006 was a conference win over RPI 50 Air Force, but their best nonconference win was over #119 Albany and then 2ND BEST is a win over #149 Loyola Marymount (12-18 ). Give me a stinkin' Break!!
And this is supposed to compare to MVC wins over Iowa, DePaul, Xavier, Nebraska, etc?
Utah-Utah is one of the perennial powers in this conference, but don't look for them to do much this year.
After Andrew Bogut left, they haven't been the same. Numerous returning players have left although four of the inexperienced players who were starting do return.
Utah finished 13-15 with RPI 162 last year, and they should be little better this year.
UNLV-- this is the silliest part of the entire article, suggesting that one of their new players, Lon Kruger's son Kevin, who is transferring from Arizona State will actually help them do anything. Newsflash--he's a role player at best, not a game breaker.
Lastly we have to get a snicker at New Mexico.
No telling if JR Giddens might turn out to be the second coming of Danny Granger, but even Granger NEVER helped New Mexico to an RPI better than about 120, and only helped get to the NCAA with a lucky win in a weak year in the conference tourney.
But all of UNM's top scorers from last year are gone. They have nobody left that can hit the broad side of a barn.
They play a hilariously soft schedule against these teams:
Scheduled non-conference opponents-
Western New Mexico
Abilene Christian
Sacramento State
Colorado
Kansas State
New Mexico State
UTEP
New Mexico State
North Carolina A&T
Longwood
Charleston Southern
Alcorn State
Binghamton
Pepperdine
New Mexico should run up plenty of wins against these cupcakes, but will it help them get into the NCAA??....pretty risky.
But this is the exact opposite of what the MVC is doing, not the same as the article claims.
The MVC is absolutely avoiding all those easy teams at home in order to build RPI.Comment
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Since we are talking about the MWC, has anyone seen this article:
I think the MVC might be left behind when it comes to something like this. So if the MWC has it's own tv network, and the B10 is gonna have theirs... you know the rest of the BCS are gonna follow.
But after I think about it a little more. If all the BCS and MWC have their own networks... that will leave ESPN, Fox and CBS to cover all the rest. Whoo-hooo... MVC on ESPN all the time.Comment
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Brandon Heath was POY. He led in scoring at 18.4. Slaughter (16.5 ppg) led in rebounding with 11.0 a game.Originally posted by tornadoComment
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Here is yet another article about some other midmajor conference trying to emulate the Missouri Valley.
"According to the report, the league coaches would convene at the end of each season to put together a predicted order of finish for the following year. The bottom tier would be responsible for scheduling winnable OOC games as opposed to "buy" games against far-superior opponents. The top tier would not be permitted to schedule teams with RPIs higher than 200, and similar but less stringent RPI restrictions would exist for the middle grouping."
"Such league-wide policies are not unprecedented. In early 2000, Missouri Valley Conference commissioner Doug Elgin decided to withhold an annual $50,000 NCAA tournament distribution from programs that didn't play an out-of-conference schedule consisting of opponents whose three-year average RPI didn't rank in the Top 150."Comment
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If the selection committee is gonna reward this kind of successful scheduling, how long will it be before BCS conferences feel the pressure to schedule similarly?Comment
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