Disturbing comment from Coach Les

[jasonpeoria911]

It sounds like he's saying giving up a few backdoors is ok because that's just going to happen when you are trying to double team or play aggressive man to man. If we are constantly getting beat by it in a game then your almost forced to loosen the belt on the D.

Jason

[Out of Balance]

IMO, I think that we are a decent defensive team with the exception of the "5" spot... No matter who plays this position recently. If our center would maintain their positioning and not go up to double team an incoming player to the lane, a lot of the backdoor layups would at least be more contested.

I agree Benni, stop the crap of leaving the post because all that doe's is leave it open for a easy one. We have seen it a lot this year!

[BradleyBrave]

Agreed. Not too many teams with a 7-footer in the middle give up uncontested backdoor layups. If we still had POB in the middle Les would look like a defensive guru.

And if we still had Hersey Hawkins we would never lose. What kind of a statement is that? POB has been gone for 3 years. Seriously.

[Out of Balance]

Back door, front door or the sh_thouse door, close it. There was so meny of those back door easy ones at ISU I throught we were playing with 4 players!
Never give any thing up, play to defend everything as one point beats you!

[thefish7]

I have almost no idea what I'm talking about, but isn't it the big flashing out what keeps the screens from allowing open shots on the perimeter?

From what I observe, DC is pretty good at flashing out and getting back in time to still play some defense. SS on the other hand has a lot of trouble getting back in time...

Also, weren't a lot of those backdoors against our 1-3-1 zone? The 1-3-1 was nice for messing with teams when first kind of unleashed it, but it seems like it's scouted now and it may be best to let it rest for a while. Against the 1-3-1 teams are attacking the corners of it, and getting the ball to one side which causes the guard under the basket to go to that side... Then the ball is reversed for a layup.

[MacabreMob]

I have almost no idea what I'm talking about, but isn't it the big flashing out what keeps the screens from allowing open shots on the perimeter?

From what I observe, DC is pretty good at flashing out and getting back in time to still play some defense. SS on the other hand has a lot of trouble getting back in time...

Also, weren't a lot of those backdoors against our 1-3-1 zone? The 1-3-1 was nice for messing with teams when first kind of unleashed it, but it seems like it's scouted now and it may be best to let it rest for a while. Against the 1-3-1 teams are attacking the corners of it, and getting the ball to one side which causes the guard under the basket to go to that side... Then the ball is reversed for a layup.

Yes. I agree.

Seemed like Marty Simmons had a few plays to bust up the 1-3-1 fairly easy yesterday (resulting in some easy back-door baskets).

[Braves4Life]

And if we still had Hersey Hawkins we would never lose. What kind of a statement is that? POB has been gone for 3 years. Seriously.

True. You got me there BB I guess that was just wishful thinking

[houstontxbrave]

I have almost no idea what I'm talking about, but isn't it the big flashing out what keeps the screens from allowing open shots on the perimeter?

From what I observe, DC is pretty good at flashing out and getting back in time to still play some defense. SS on the other hand has a lot of trouble getting back in time...

Also, weren't a lot of those backdoors against our 1-3-1 zone? The 1-3-1 was nice for messing with teams when first kind of unleashed it, but it seems like it's scouted now and it may be best to let it rest for a while. Against the 1-3-1 teams are attacking the corners of it, and getting the ball to one side which causes the guard under the basket to go to that side... Then the ball is reversed for a layup.

I hate it when we send our 5 out to play or slow down a guard, then that 5 has to move back to the lane to cover up any high low passing. I also hate it that we use our 5 to set screens 20 ft from the rim, hoping beyond hope that the 5 will, 1) not set a moving screen, 2) that the 5 will roll to the rim and receive a pass off of that screen. I think Egolf would have had the ability to catch and move with the ball off of a ball screen. Collins and Singh are not real good at it, but then again I rarely see the guard ever look to pass the ball to the screener.

Very little in basketball bothers me more then when your center commits a foul 20 feet from the block.

[BradleyBrave]

True. You got me there BB I guess that was just wishful thinking

It's OK, I do the same thing. I'm watching this stupid NBA All-Star game and keep getting irritated that Danny Granger was a Brave for 43 games. Then I get even more irritated that with an NBA All-Star on the roster we only won 13 of those 43 games. It really is unbelievable.

[bigdaddystuck]

Braveman and I both commented on the bigs flashing out to slow the guards down. He mentioned that in Versace's day the rule was flash out and recover quickly. Both of us noticed that our bigs tend to linger too long out top and dont recover very well. This leaves big gaps in our defense.

IMO this team has really improved on D but I would not call us a awesome or dominate defensive team.

[thefish7]

I hate it when we send our 5 out to play or slow down a guard, then that 5 has to move back to the lane to cover up any high low passing. I also hate it that we use our 5 to set screens 20 ft from the rim, hoping beyond hope that the 5 will, 1) not set a moving screen, 2) that the 5 will roll to the rim and receive a pass off of that screen. I think Egolf would have had the ability to catch and move with the ball off of a ball screen. Collins and Singh are not real good at it, but then again I rarely see the guard ever look to pass the ball to the screener.

Very little in basketball bothers me more then when your center commits a foul 20 feet from the block.

I can't think of many teams I've watched play that don't have the 5 flashing out on defense or setting screens/passing at the top of the perimeter on offense. I'm not really sure how defense in particular can work without such play. Singh in particular has seemed to linger too long out there, and also not shown great ability to get back inside after flashing out... but it's still a very important part of playing that position.

[MacabreMob]

It's OK, I do the same thing. I'm watching this stupid NBA All-Star game and keep getting irritated that Danny Granger was a Brave for 43 games. Then I get even more irritated that with an NBA All-Star on the roster we only won 13 of those 43 games. It really is unbelievable.

This steers off-topic... but it got me thinking... hmmm, wow.... we won 13 of only 43 games with him? Wow - who would anyone dream of blaming for that?

[it's boogie time]

I wouldn't mind the occasional back door layup if BU was getting enough steals or deflections to warrant it. However, Evansville only committed 8 turnovers in a high possession game. Four steals total for BU and I think one of them was on the last play of the game.

Teams are looking for the backdoor now and BU doesn't have the shot blockers in the middle to help or the weak side guards to help get the charge (the Valley refs love to call charges).

[lefty]

I wouldn't mind the occasional back door layup if BU was getting enough steals or deflections to warrant it. However, Evansville only committed 8 turnovers in a high possession game. Four steals total for BU and I think one of them was on the last play of the game.

Teams are looking for the backdoor now and BU doesn't have the shot blockers in the middle to help or the weak side guards to help get the charge (the Valley refs love to call charges).

excellent point boogie

[Beninator]

Braveman and I both commented on the bigs flashing out to slow the guards down. He mentioned that in Versace's day the rule was flash out and recover quickly. Both of us noticed that our bigs tend to linger too long out top and dont recover very well. This leaves big gaps in our defense.

IMO this team has really improved on D but I would not call us a awesome or dominate defensive team.

Agree.. In the Evansville game, they had a guard driving toward the hoop who stopped about 8 feet from the basket... Our 5 went over to double team the Evansville guard which left their wing player wide open for the back door slam... All our 5 has to do in that situation is maintain his position, watch for the back door, and get ready for a possible rebound... In that situation, I would rather have an opposing guard shoot a contested 8 foot shot than a back door slam any day!