Those refs...

[pfunk880]

that was a bad call but I'm sure Evansville fans thought they gor homered overall with us shooting 30some ft's.....it really disrupted the flow of the game

We shot 37, they shot 28. But a number of ours were at the end when they had to foul, so it isn't like there was extreme home cooking on that front by any stretch.

Theron got called on a ridiculous over the back call when he basically outjumped 2 or 3 purple aces for the ball - it was a scrum & he truly had no advantage on that play other than the fact that he could leap.

Yeah, that was a bad one.

[lefty]

We shot 37, they shot 28. But a number of ours were at the end when they had to foul, so it isn't like there was extreme home cooking on that front by any stretch.



Yeah, that was a bad one.

I agree with you......I'm saying more from there point of view......personally there were some called I wish they wouldn't have so the game would have flowed better but that's the way it is

[jasonpeoria911]

I certainly don't mind a lot of fouls called as long as we keep shooting them at 81% LOL. If that had been another 50% at the line night, it would of been a big L in the column. Probably could of bumped it up to 83 or 84% but I think they lost concentration when the game was in hand.

Jason

[BUFAN]

This is why I have contended all along that BU needes to leave the MVC. The caliber of game officiating is the worst in the nation. Any conference we end up in would give us a better game to watch. We would not have to worry about some of the mystery calls we see both at home and on the road...

[Da Coach]

I didn't think the officiating yesterday was biased or favored either team, but there were a number of questionable calls, especially the usual several botched charge/block calls. I watch a lot of games, and nowhere else but the MVC do you ever see the charge foul called on plays where the offensive player gets to the basket with his athleticism and skill, scores, and has the basket nullified because an unathletic guard, who wasn't even trying to play defense, slides under the shooter, and flops onto his butt as the shooter comes down from the shot.
I wish the MVC would clean up these horrible faux charge fouls.

[bu fan 9]

Does anyone know what they got paid?

[lefty]

The three refs who did yesterday's BU game are not guys who do a lot of MVC games......I actually did NOT recognize any of them except the 3rd guy who was vaguely familiar from past years, and here's why..
two of them have never done a single Bradley game in the past 13 seasons......

-David Maracich has done only two MVC games this season and yesterday was the only BU game.
In checking his numbers all the way back to 1996, this is the very first Bradley game he's ever done!!!
In fact, this is the first season he has ever done a single Valley game!




-Sean Casey has done ONLY two Valley conference games, and 3 other non-conference games involving a Valley team. This is the first game he's done involving Bradley.
In fact, in the past 12 seasons, he has never done a game involving Bradley!





-David Warfel has done only 7 games involving MVC teams and only 4 conference games.
This was his 2nd game involving BU (East Tennessee State) this season but he's only done a dozen Bradley games since 1996.
Interesting, though, going all the way back to 1996, he has never reffed a single game that didn't involve at least one Valley team...in other words, he ONLY does Valley games.
That blows the smitereens out of the opinion and claims by some that there is NO such thing as a Valley ref!!!
http://statsheet.com/mcb/referees/da...el/conferences

I recognized the third....although he's lost a lot of hair

[Double D]

When we are going through these no name officials in sec 10 we say..."Just enjoying another Saturday night in Valley."

[leebiddlecome]

Tornado, sure some guys do Valley games. But they also do Horizon League, Summit, Big Ten, D2, etc.

There isn't a single guy employed solely by the Missouri Valley Conference.

[tornado]

I cited an example of a guy who has never done a single game in 12 years except Valley games...what more do you want...
see a copy of the guy's contract??

[leebiddlecome]

That site does not show D2, D3 or NAIA games. Again, guys are independent contractors. They don't sign contracts to only officiate games in a certain league.

Do they do alot of one league? Sure. But they are free to do other games.

[SFP]

Do they do alot of one league? Sure. But they are free to do other games.

Master of the obvious aren't we? The fact is that the MVC does not spend a lot of money on their refs and I really do not see Refs that do BCS schools go down stream to do MVC games. That is what we are talking about is that the MVC does not do itself any favors by skimping out on the quality of refs. Officiating is an important aspect of the game and it does impact the overall quality of our league.

leebiddlecome I'm not sure what you are getting at

[MacabreMob]

Master of the obvious aren't we? The fact is that the MVC does not spend a lot of money on their refs and I really do not see Refs that do BCS schools go down stream to do MVC games. That is what we are talking about is that the MVC does not do itself any favors by skimping out on the quality of refs. Officiating is an important aspect of the game and it does impact the overall quality of our league.

leebiddlecome I'm not sure what you are getting at

SFP - I know the MVC can't out-spend the BCS leagues... but they have upped their ante to get better officials. And I have seen some refs doing MVC games as well as some BCS games.

I think it's games like last Saturday, when the MVC is looking to get the better officials for the "bigger" games... and I'm sure the Creighton/SIU game got sent the better crew.

But don't misunderstand me. I look at every game Bradley plays as a big game. Every single one of them. This is D1 hoops... every team better take that approach for each game or sometimes you see a Loyola win at Butler or an Indiana St win at UNI.

[BU_EMT128]

I mean, i dont need hightower every game... but i will take mediocre at this point.

[Beninator]

Do they do alot of one league? Sure. But they are free to do other games.

Sounds like a fair market price these MVC refs should be asking for next year at some location far far away!